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04-14-2013 , 06:15 AM
Totally readless, Just sat in, 1st hand dealt
Villain is in his 60s, if that helps any.

5/5 nl $500 effective stacks

1 limper
SB Villain checks option
BB Hero : raises to $35 A A
1 fold, Villain calls


778 Pot $70

Villain : Checks
Hero : Bets $40
Villain : Calls

Turn J Pot $150

Villain Checks
Hero Checks

River : K Pot $150
Villain Bets $60
Hero raises to $160 total
Villain shoves on top for about $300 more

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2nd scenario question, if
7 7 8 J
What does Hero do on turn.
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04-14-2013 , 06:24 AM
I think it's a call 100%. He has no idea how strong your hand is in this spot. If he hits the flop I don't think this type of players checks the turn in this spot.

He most likely has KQ imo
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04-14-2013 , 07:02 PM
Wouldn't he be turning kq into a bluff there ? Would think he would just call the kq the majority of the time

Is turn ok to check here as a standard with no reads... Is it better line to bet/fold this turn?

Last edited by DonkvFish; 04-14-2013 at 07:08 PM.
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04-14-2013 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xJoshie
I think it's a call 100%. He has no idea how strong your hand is in this spot. If he hits the flop I don't think this type of players checks the turn in this spot.

He most likely has KQ imo
yop, that´s his most likely hand. completing in sb hoping for a cheap flop, reverse floating on a 778 board, checking turn and now bet/3bet shoving with KQ on a 778JK board. most likely hand? come on...

readless it´s a fold 100% imo. he is extremely polarized, but unless we got proove that a 60s something smallblind completer is capable of putting a complete stranger exactly on AK and now turns his weaker hands into bluff to get him to fold exactly one hand this is an easy fold.
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04-14-2013 , 07:30 PM
given my line.. Is my raise / fold fine on river given his small bet.

Also should I bet/fold that turn readless instead of checking behind to bluff catch/pot control
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04-14-2013 , 10:14 PM
Checking turn or going bet/fold is fine either way. I slightly favor checking because the most obvious draw got there and not much else is going on. On turn your probably either loosing or way ahead. In any case, if you do check turn then river is a call until you have a handle on villains range and betting patterns. The river bet isn't big, but if he is making a blocking bet then he doesn't call raises and if he is making a suck bet he is either pretty bad or beating you.

In the second scenario you mention, bet/fold turn looks better. More flush draws then straight draws, so better chance you have a draw to defend against here. I would still consider either way OK.
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04-14-2013 , 11:36 PM
Fold to river shove. Ur hand looks like ak and he is saying he can beat ak. He probably has at least a 7 here. I'd bet fold turn if u think he calls down with worse than jx. If not check is fine
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04-15-2013 , 12:46 AM
With 100 bbs , I'm betting like $50-60 flop and shoving turn
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04-15-2013 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sauhund

readless it´s a fold 100% imo. he is extremely polarized, but unless we got proove that a 60s something smallblind completer is capable of putting a complete stranger exactly on AK and now turns his weaker hands into bluff to get him to fold exactly one hand this is an easy fold.
Yea, this is exactly what crossed my mind for a second, and a couple seconds later, I was like no way why am I even thinking that lol...and just folded

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Originally Posted by QuadJ
In any case, if you do check turn then river is a call until you have a handle on villains range and betting patterns.

This, I was debating soooo much on my raise. Since he made such a small river bet, I was thinking...my extra $100 raise may not be worth as much as seeing his betting pattern/ if he fastplays flopped trips or not hu or if hes trappy.

In the second scenario you mention, bet/fold turn looks better. More flush draws then straight draws, so better chance you have a draw to defend against here. I would still consider either way OK.
makes sense

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Originally Posted by slimshady1999
Fold to river shove. Ur hand looks like ak and he is saying he can beat ak.
yea, the only hand that crossed my mind that I could beat was KJ...pretty easy muck.
I just wasnt sure on my turn line, or if even raising the river here with no reads was bad.
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04-15-2013 , 05:18 AM
Thanks for the input everyone
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04-15-2013 , 05:48 AM
Snap fold river. LOL guy who said villian has KQ, dude has 78 88 7x 9T nearly always.
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