1-3 $500 buy-in. Hero ($480) 60s WM TAG UTG with AhAc. V is a 30 WM 2-5 reg in a large Vegas room playing lower today. He has been moderately LAG ($600), one of two 2-5 regs in this game today, seated in HJ and CO.

I limp re-raise AA maybe once a year, but in this case i was UTG with three aggressive skilled players in late position. I limped, picked up a caller, then V raised to ($15). Folded to me and I 3 bet to $45. He called with minimal thought.

Flop ($97) KdQd3d, a monotone flop with a K and Q. I lead for $55 and he calls.

Turn ($207) 7c. I check, V bets $110. Play on all streets?

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AP x/c turn and x/c River vs a LAG reg

I dont know why you checked the turn. I wouldve bet/folded. As played I crai. If he has KK/QQ/KQ youre in big trouble no matter what, but if hes a LAG, his range is much wider.

There's a very good chance he has a diamond and knows you don't. I want him to put all his money in now before he knows if hes getting it or not.

Weird hand... you would have been better off raising UTG than to telegraph exactly what you have preflop. Now if you know ever bluff limp/rr then maybe you can make a case. If you are going to limp/rr and give away your hand you should have charged a lot more with the 3b.

Since your range is QQ-AA preflop, and you'd never check a set, your range after checking turn is basically AA no diamond. What makes this spot bad is he can probably put you on exactly what you have. TBH I don't really know what to do here since I would never get in a spot like this but I guess all three options suck. Probably preferring to bet turn for value and x/decide on rivers.

I'm big on limp/reraising AA (it's my default play). However, you have to take certain considerations into play. We only asked him to call $30 more, which offered him fairly ok 16:1 odds to win our stack; given that our hand may be a little face-upish and the fact that the SPR will be 4.5 (where it will be trivial for him to ask us to play for stacks postflop especially in position) this is not a good thing.

So while I'm cool with the open limp, I think we have 2 better options facing the raise. We could either raise to a large amount that won't offer him good odds while committed, so say $75 (which would offer poor 8:1) odds; obviously he's going to fold the majority of the time, but honestly against a good player who has position simply taking down $22 tax free and moving on ain't a bad result. Our other option is to flat; this will probably bring along the other guy for a 3way pot, but the SPR will be a manageable ~10, which ain't horrendous, and we could simply win a bet or two postflop by disguising our hand and bluffcatching (although we do risk still playing OOP to a good player and possibly allowing one of these 2 opponents to hit something we pay off a couple of streets too). Either of these 2 poisons is better than our sizing, imo.

Basically our preflop sizing has put us in an awkward spot postflop; one where we'll likely have to commit and yet feel very uncomfortable doing so against this guy OOP having given him decent IO preflop.

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Sorry, gotta disagree with you there. I want a call with AA all of the time. I agree OP could have gone a little larger pre, to say $60, but to say you only want to pick up the $20 out there and not make more post-flop is bad thinking. Gotta maximize value with our monsters and not worry as much about being on the receiving end of negative variance once in a while.

Turning our hand face up OOP to a decent player while offering ok IO is the nut low result. I won't go so far as saying it's -EV, but it's still the worse of all our choices, imo.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Which is why it's better to open raise than to l/rr, so we don't turn our hand face up.

lol what is this thread

bet your hand pre you dont need a balanced limp raising raise with one pocket aces per year this is 2-5 live
AP raise bigger pre your out of position. $60 is fine
AP bet turn
AP call villian turn bet
AP C/C any river

to quote others turning your pocket aces face up or winning a single bet is absolutely not our optimal line this is insanity

I don't limp reraise often but I can definitely get behind it in the right game. I would make it bigger pre, and I would check/call flop.

As played the turn is an awkward spot, I would probably check/call, and then check/call most rivers.

So you dont CRAIeerday then?

I lol'd

stopped after limp reraise. fish move

At loose tables this has it's own set of small SPR while offering good IO problems, such as going 5way to the flop OOP against the world for a trivial percentage of our stack preflop.

Basically, get yourself in a good spot that you're comfortable with (which can differ from player to player).

GcluelessNLnoobG

+1

It has its place at the right (read: extremely active) tables, but it's important that players don't autopilot to l/rr their big pairs in EP as a crutch for weak (or scared) post-flop play. Otherwise, we're never gonna get better at post-flop poker.

How many high-stakes pros do you see l/rr? Do we know something they don't?

I'm completely unfamiliar with high stakes. Do they often get themselves into spots where the SPR is lol < 4 in 5+way pots for < 5% of their stack preflop? Cuz that's like the totally standard result at a lot of LLSNL games.

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I've never limp/reraised in my life. Is that a leak?