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Originally Posted by wiffle
villain has a strong range when he calls our utg+1 raise over an utg limp in utg+2.
it doesnt include k9s or 97s. his flop range doesnt include them either
Is the quality of player at 1/3 significantly better than at 1/2? I only ask because from my 1/2 background, most players give about zero ****s about an "UTG+1 opening over an UTG limper so he must have a strong range which means I can only call in UTG+2 with a strong range"
In my experience, and YMMV, but most players see a raise $X and then basically ask themselves, "is this hand worth $X to play?" Many times there is little to no consideration as to raises stack size/position/looseness or tightness or their own stack size/position. So much so that I routinely see players with 50bb stacks call 20-40% of their stack pre, and then fold somewhere along in the hand. Hell, last night alone I had the honor of sitting to the direct left of 2 special souls who felt limp/calling 8-10bb raises with hands as great as K3o, J2o, etc, with regular occurrence.
All of this is really just a long winded way of saying: how do you know K9s/97s are not in V2s range? We're given literally no information about his calling range (despite OP claiming to have pretty good reads on all the players at the table and then not giving any reads). Without this information I would think including it would be a more conservative/profitable approach