Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR

10-26-2016 , 08:26 PM
Hero MAWG $1,100 covers table. The hand immediately preceding this one I played AK aggressively and three bet a lagfish to $105 preflop. He called out of position then jammed all-in for $200 more with AQ when he flopped a flush draw. I flopped top pair. His flush got there on the river so it's possible that I'm viewed as tilting.

Hero in MP dealt AA, utg straddles to $6 one fold one call, hero raises to $35. Almost everyone calls. We go 7 way to the flop. Pot $245

Flop is 267

Small blind, typical loose passive with $250 left donks $60. Two folds to hero. So three left to act behind me and one of the looser ones, with about$200 left is grabbing chips.

Hero?
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-26-2016 , 09:11 PM
I might fold here with AA, although it's tough to make the right decision without thinking what the 3 behind called with. All pp lower than JJ's probably fold to a shove, all sets call, all flushes call jj-kk with a spade call. So I would think you are only getting called by worse very seldomly although naked A, k maybe even q's call you for their 2:5 odds for 2 cards. Seems like such a wet board one pair hands will just fold unless on the flush draw vs all sets 2 pairs and combo draws that call. But what do I know I'm a fish
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-26-2016 , 09:12 PM
That being said I myself would go all in lol so yeah...
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-26-2016 , 09:23 PM
Muck. You have no fold equity on a shove and are never in even reasonable shape here versus 7 players, two of whom are already making it clear they intend to go the distance.
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-26-2016 , 11:41 PM
Trivial stackoff in SPR of 1 vs two players. If you get coolered gg

Lol at wanting fold equity
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-26-2016 , 11:49 PM
As long as effective stacks are ~$250, then it's an easy shove.
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 10:14 AM
Does anyone ever just call the $60 and evaluate subsequent action and the turn card?
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 10:53 AM
yes I just call the 60 and see what happens behind me if the 200 shoves and somebody else reshoves then I fold but if its just the sb that calls then I would call
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minatorr
Trivial stackoff in SPR of 1 vs two players. If you get coolered gg

Lol at wanting fold equity
Quote:
Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
As long as effective stacks are ~$250, then it's an easy shove.
These.
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 11:31 AM
I'm assuming this is 1/3 NL due to $6 straddle?

Preflop really depends on whether there are other deepish stacks at the table or whether everyone else is like 100bb-, but at loose deep action tables where a preflop raise has zero chance at narrowing the field, I would always go for the limp/reraise play with my biggish TP type hands.

Now we're in a ****ed spot where we can easily make a huge mistake (folding the best hand in a huge pot or getting in our stack with the worst of it). If you're really good at knowing what the correct play is in this situation, then you'll have no problem with the preflop result. Otherwise, if you're like me, you'll have no clue what to do here and be better off not getting into these situations. I'd probably fold here, but there is a good chance that is a massive mistake.

GpokeriseasyifyoumakeitsoG
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 02:36 PM
Well, my thought process was that a $60 donk bet from a loose passive on that flop meant I was probably beat but honestly had no idea because of sizing so I called hoping it didn't get raised behind me. I was going to jam on a non spade turn if checked to me. But...

Hero calls $60 and cutoff calls $60.
Turn is 10 of clubs
Small blind jams for about $200, I fold as now I'm convinced I'm beat and cut off calls.

Small blind had 10 spades and 10 diamonds
Cut off had Ace spades and seven of diamonds.
River was the case ace. Lol.
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 04:20 PM
I would think calling 60 is the worst out of the 3 options, jamming would be good against a loose passive player as you could be far ahead of his range of hands he is donk betting with, however the 3 behind are what I would be worried about. Thinking it's probably a fold I would probably never fold. I'm too bad of a player to fold AA on the flop to a donk bet into me if they got lucky they got lucky
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 06:10 PM
Well played OP.

Donk bet was consistent with a nut flush, NFD, or a scared pair. You beat most of these. No need to be to terrified of the guy reaching for chips early either. This is more indicative of a caller not a raiser. You certainly can't fold.

Still, you have three guys behind you left to act. We don't know the stack sizes of two of them. SB could be misplaying his hand. AND your hand isn't that strong 7-ways on this board. Shoving would have been a mistake even though it would have worked here.

Sucks about the turn card. Good fold.
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote
10-27-2016 , 07:56 PM
It's not clear what the effective stack is. I think never folding is fine, but calling could be good. We can play turns alright.

Call the ten turn imo.
AA, 7 to the flop but low SPR Quote

      
m