Didn't happen to me personally but between 2 players at my table. Thought it was an interesting spot.

1/3, $1000 effective
Villain in UTG+2 is a loose gambler
Hero in CO is young asian TAG

Villain opens to 15
Hero with AA 3-bets to 50
Villain 4-bets to 125
Hero 5-bets to 350
Villain flats

Flop [$700]: KK3
Villain jams for remaining 650

Hero ?

I think its a call just because the villain is a loose gambler. Sometimes you just have to shrug and call it off in live poker.

Gross spot, but with an SPR of 1, not folding here.

Not folding in a vacuum. Definitely not folding against a "loose gambler". Yes, some AK play this way, but basically KK never (why jam quads?), & I can envision QQ-JJ just YOLOing this board (and whatever else is in this gambly guy's 4b range) w/ so little behind.

Just call it off. Unfortunately, we're probably going to see something like KTo, or KJs :/

It all comes down to how often you think he's doing this with a lower pocket pair.

If you think he flats a 5 bet with QQ & JJ, then it's a call (although I've never seen this line taken at 1/3 this deep)

If we only give him a range of Kx and KK+, then it's a trivial fold.

Easy call. Blockers to AK and you’ve still got 11% equity versus Kx.

He only needs to turn a few PP’s into a bluff before this is a fist pump shove and described villain can’t help but overbluff this spot versus our obvious AA.

How does anyone feel about hero flatting the 4 bet to keep villains range (and our perceived range) wider? The 5 bet looks like almost exclusively AA here. We will be in position and have an SPR of almost 4.

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I can get behind a flat of the 3! here and just GII on most flops. But I don't think 5-betting is a mistake if V is loose and never 4!/folding.

AP, just call it off. I don't know anybody who would fold here.

NH, I like every bit of it. V should be jamming a lot of hands other than Kx here, knowing you're strong and could maybe laydown AA here. I think it's a call, but obviously any WA/WB decision for 300+bb's is delicate. If V had the stones to open shove a 230bb PSB into a pre flop 5-bettor with the effective or actually nuts, then well played my friend. You should be ahead here 75+% of the time.

Most likely 5b for value vs loose gambler, but prob making it a little smaller especially being IP. Stacks are going in regardless, and he’s more likely to call/spazz vs small 5b sizing.

Against reg/non aggrotard flatting 4b IP is the standard play. 5b is just so obvious and any non aggrotard and reg knows what you have here and is folding. Plus flatting here with AA protects your 3b range from 4b bluffs, protects the time you want to call QQ/KK, AKs. You dont want your range too faceup

Ap calling but feelin pretty annoyed

I'm ok with flatting the 4 bet, and I would probably do that more than 50% of the the time.

AP, I'm beating his chips into the pot.

I wouldn't fold AA here... I dont think it's a move from V who has K and we blocks AK as well. Could be a move w/33 from the V explained as a loose gambler, he shoved bc hero's range is also likely AK haha.

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You just don’t see a lot of 4 betting or 5 betting at 1/3 at the Card Rooms I play at without a premium hand like KK or AA. Since the player holding AA blocks AK what can the other Villian have here? KK, QQ, AA less likely, and sometimes AK? Then the question remains if any other KX hands are likely, or maybe 10’s through JJ’s also?

I think a call is very close here. So I would be trying to pick up some type of tell, and base my decision off of that read. If my opponent looks too relaxed I may let this one go with Aces. But, calling is not a mistake here to be sure.

Only an idiot V would jam flop without Kx because any sensible player with half a brain should expect you to call a flop donk shove with your 5bet range 100% of the time here.

I call too though, sorry he had KQ, lol.

Hmmm...maybe my term "loose gambler" means something different to you guys than I intended. He's a gambler in the sense that he'll call down 2 streets with a gutshot and play any 2 suited pre to any raise size. In the 3 hours I'd played with him, he only 3-bet twice, with KK and AK. I feel like the average V at 1/3 is only 4-betting KK or AA, maybe AK. With that range on the flop, Hero only has 11% equity. Although if you add just 3 combos of QQ, equity goes up to 38%, which would justify a call.

Tough spot for me personally, but it seems like we're slightly favored for a call here.

Call and get over it, AINEC.

Even in 1/3 games, I only see the most loose and aggressive players 4B! with AK OOP - I don't even factor in suited at that point. And then calling off to a 5B! of $350 is just insanity, especially this deep. But yeah, these guys help me pay my bills.

Anyay, I'm more curious as what flops is OP folding after getting in a third of his stack PF? Maybe three hearts or diamonds? And what boards does OP think Villain can get OP to fold by donking out like this? Does Villain jam thinking OP was otherwise just gonna then try to check it down? If Villain somehow flops quads, doesn't he want to give OP a chance to make some/any kind of hand before dropping the hammer?

I say pucker up those seated cheeks, ask the server for spoon help stir the pepto that has coagulated in the bottle resting between the front seats in your car, call and then pour yourself a shot if Villain opens KJo.