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10-27-2014 , 02:55 AM
Im gonna throw this up for review. Im in middle pos on a 1/2 table at the charitable, 220 deep, I get pocket aces.
The whole table has been kinda soft, I feel like the most aggressive at the table and nobody is playing back much.

The lady to my left is an older asian who ive never played with but her husband plays cash while she plays "and cashes out" in tourneys regularly, she funds his poker habit. The rest of the table has been pretty stagnant. An Asian guy in seat one opens for 8, He just won a big pot and has 400+ he hasnt done much he was kinda of my radar for his lack of action before last hand, hes folded everytime ive bet back at him.
He opens 8 utg, 2 fold and I had been googling earlier in the day about min -reraising instead of check raising, And dont want to scare everyone off so I min raised to 16. Lady calls, rest fold and and the guy calls 16 pre.
Flop comes 5 3 10 rainbow, guy leads out 15. I reraise to 45, she folds, hes allin.

Last edited by volcano41; 10-27-2014 at 03:15 AM.
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10-27-2014 , 06:37 AM
So why did you raise on the flop when the villain folds every time you raise?

FWIW, the min raise pf screams I have aces or maybe kings. Given that this is 1/2 and most players don't expect you to fold aces on this board, he likely has a set. I'd fold to a passive player that is folding every time you bet at him.
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10-27-2014 , 07:35 AM
AA in the hole: a great hand, until it isn't (and a lot of people lose a lot of money by not knowing when it's no longer a great hand). I agree with venice10's assessment that this player is not going to shove unless he thinks he's got you beat, and if he doesn't have a set here, he doesn't think he has you beat.
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10-27-2014 , 04:30 PM
I think this is a call. Only hand I see you really losing to is TT due to ep pfr from a tight player. The raise is small so it could be a pot sweetener raise with 55 or 33, but you said you hadn't seen much from v so I would discount that scenario. I think its reasonable for a tight player to wait for a good flop to gii with KK/QQ and so few hands that beat you I'd call
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10-27-2014 , 04:42 PM
Even though he has been passive vs. your aggression, important to note he is now opening UTG, putting him on a stronger range.

As played, call if you think KK gets him excited, otherwise fold. There are more remaining combos of KK than TT, but your flop raise could easily be AA.

Pre - raise to $25.
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10-27-2014 , 05:18 PM
Don't like the plan, or lack thereof, on the flop.

If we're raising with the intention of getting it in ... great.

If we're raising expecting him to flat ... what range do we really attribute to him that'll do that?

If we're raising to get him to fold ... again, WHY? We're ahead and not scared of many turns.


The preflop open was small, and your min-raise might not be interpreted as ONLY AA/KK. If you think he'll stack off with something like JJ-KK here then we have to call him. If he's the kind to "put you on AK", then I might call him there too.

It's a little weird that he's opening, then re-raising with many of those hands though. I expect so see a check/raise from many V's. Although, his line is the better of the two.
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10-28-2014 , 12:53 AM
Raise more pre. You can't be scared of scaring people off the hand, you're trying win with your A's, not give people options to make correct decisions by calling with odds to outflop you. The closer you get your money in to preflop the better with A's, that's usually the only time it's the nuts.

Don't raise the flop, if you get 3-bet you have a hard decision. Just call. Call down 3 streets to allow him to value-own himself with a smaller overpair. If you raise, it's hard for worse things to call you. Pot control with an overpair 3-handed.

But SPR is low, about 4.5, so you're justified getting all your money in here. If he outflopped you with a set, cooler. As played, I'd crying call all-in, but if his image really is nitty and you think he puts you where you're at, you could fold, especially to the 5x 3bet. Don't be surprised if he set-mined you because your min-raise gives him a good opportunity to do so. If you lost, dust yourself off and move on, and raise more preflop next time.
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10-28-2014 , 08:44 AM
this is AA made complicated imo :/
fold now
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10-28-2014 , 09:55 AM
UTG opens/flats AND donks ... you have a customer. Why would you raise him out of the hand OTF? If you are behind you now have a chance to catch up without putting your stack in when well behind. If he doesn't donk the Turn, then you have a decision to make as to betting out or waiting to let him bet the River. I think your stack is small enough to let the Turn slide by and either raise all-in or bet out a decent amount on the River.

Not sure what the artical told you, but you can't c/r when in position so I'm not sure how it applies here. Min-raises scream 'big hand' unless late in tournaments. You don't want to scare off opponents and yet you min-raise PF. This is contradictory in itself.

His bet may look like a blocker bet, but for what? Rainbow board, wheel draw? I can also see you wanting to isolate by raising, but this board is so lame that I don't mind letting the Lady stick around and put 15 into the pot to make up for his smallish bet size. If she flats and he checks Turn, then I think you 'have' to bet Turn to try and isolate or take it down. If she folds the Flop, then you can decide to see a River and try to get him to bet again or try for stacks on Turn.

AP, you have bet 'at' him twice and both times he has stayed in the pot. Time to fold.

You picked up zero information about the strength of an UTG open by min-raising here, especially after more opponents join the pot. Don't min-raise in a cash game!! Unless stacks sizes are such that it's the only thing you can do without shoving. With this szie stack yourself to start the hand you are looking to build a pot AND gain some information with a 'standard' raise. GL

Last edited by answer20; 10-28-2014 at 10:01 AM.
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