1/2 NL 7 handed

Hero ($350): early 20s TAG image, has been playing snug for the most part, been card dead but raising with marginal hands in position. Table has been relatively passive.

Villain ($200): mid 50s asian. Is in for $600, busted twice already and has just recently bought back in. Very loose pre. Witnessed a hand were another player with $110 behind raises to $10 utg, villain (had $180 behind) called otb and everyone else folded. Flop came 857, original raiser c bets $10, villain shoves all in, original raiser tanks and finally calls. Original raiser had 99, Villain turns over 85, goes runner runner diamond, original raiser wins with diamond flush.

Hero UTG has AA :raises to $15
MP calls (has $250 behind, but not important in this hand)
V in SB calls
everyone else folds.

3 ways to flop

FLOP: ($47)

QQ7

SB checks
Hero c bets $30 (thoughts on sizing?)
MP folds,
V quickly calls.

TURN: ($107)

K

SB checks, Hero?

Check it back. The quick call OTF is almost always a FD or a Q trying to be trappy.

Take your free card to overflush him and take maneys. If river blanks, fold to any decent sized donk and check back a check, as you'll be WA/WB.

Check turn as played. I vary from Garick on river play though - if checked to you, I would bet for value (fold if raised).

Depending on V, sometimes I would check this flop. I would bet if villain calls with any pairs and all FDs (and if they have a lot of FD combos in their range... which a loose player would). However, for a different V, that may fold all but Qx OTF and ones that have less FD combos, it is a good check behind spot where there turn calling range becomes much wider (usually any pair)

I'd check ott. The non-Qx, non-fd part of his range is folding now. Wired pairs and 7x is most likely not putting more in with the K hitting, especially the Kh.

Preflop and flop look fine. You have to check this turn. Nothing that you beat is likely to call any bet and the better hands won't fold. Villain probably has a lot of QX and flush draws in his range for the flop call anyway.

If the river is a brick and villain check, I may or may not bet for value depending on how I read situation. Given description, I might go with a small bet/fold if I think he calls with a KX or middle pair.

Obviously never folding. The choice between call and shove depends on what I think villain can fold here. If he calls with any QX or can't fold a low flush, then shoving is OK. If he can get away from non-boat QX and low flushes, then I just call. Given your description, I lean shove in abstract but this is very situational and villain read dependent. Just because he is very loose pre doesn't mean he is a calling station post flop. How villains will react to such a scary board and how willing they are to put in the rest of their stacks vary widely.

all in

i would probably check the flop to be honest

then bet turn and river for value if checked to

if he led turn i would flat, then vbet river even if the heart didnt come

Grunch
I'm betting $75 here. V made a ridic overbet shove with top two in the hand described earlier. I would expect him to do the same on flop if he had the Q here. Heart draw came in, but we have the Ah. If v shoves we grudgingly call the extra $80 and hope for an A or a heart.

Results:

That's a weird one. I like the flop bet sizing. I think turn you have to check back because not much value you can get from worse hands. And you don't want to be raised off of it.

River I think you have to just call. He might be making this bet with the J but what hands call flop with it? Also, I don't see many of his hands that call your jam that don't have you beat.

Yea but after his huge bet otr, I just went through hands that he could have that have me beat. KQ is really the only hand that has me beat. Yea V could have Q7 here because he is loose, but I just don't think its likely. That being said, imo only hands that make sense here that have me beat are 77 or KQ. But for hands I have beat that he could be betting for value are hands like QT QJ Q9 or some non boat Qx.

I also think my hand is a bit under repped after my check ott.

The river is a great spot to learn about if you've never been there before.

Calling makes zero sense. If you think you're beat you fold, if you think you're ahead you're leaving way too much (42.5 BB) out there by not shoving. A call is basically burning money either way: you lose and should have folded and just handed away 35 BB, or you win but should have taken that other $85 and lost (let V keep it) those 42.5 BB.

There are rivers where we're bluff-catching and only beat bluffs and just call but this isn't one of them. V is committed and isn't folding worse flushes or trips even though those hands are garbage after we shove.

Totally agree with you on this. What do you think about the 2 different scenarios I had posted above in the results?

1) I'd shove. Take the chance that V does something insane. We don't have the nuts but V isn't checking a boat otr, if he does he should be playing 5/10. Give him the chance to make a big mistake.

2) I'd bet about half of V's remaining stack. Again, it'd be amazing if V checks otr with a flush or boat or trips. I'm sure we're ahead. Let V bluff catch.

obvious shove on river vs decribed villain