2/5 NL. Effective stacks ~$510. Hero is new to the table -- has raised pre and taken down blinds the hand before.

Villain is wearing an odd jersey (#8 Manning, gold??), 40s, white, short hair. Vibe was that he at least wasn't some random clueless guy who wandered down from the rest of the casino. Not sure how much more credit I can give him.

Villain limps from MP, Hero raises to $30 from HJ with A6, folds to BB who calls, villain calls.

Flop ($92): A63

Checks to hero, who bets $65 (sizing ok?). BB folds, villain quickly raises to $180. Hero calls, thinking:

a) Though sets are in villain's range, they're a little less likely given that I have 2 blockers.
b) I'd rather not raise and get his bluffs / one-pair hands out on the flop.

Downside of just calling here is that it lets his heart draws potentially get there on the flop, although if he's making this kind of move with that kind of hand, he's probably calling a shove with it too.

Turn ($452): 3

Villain bets $200, hero ships for $100 more.

Thoughts? The decision is on the flop, really, I guess, so I'd especially like feedback there. Thanks.

I think with these size stacks, you're getting it in there easily. I'm guessing this was 2-5?

Yes, fixed the OP. Sorry about that.

grunch: wp

your reasoning makes sense to me. if you got coolered, oh well. i would have guessed flush draw.

Yes, the presence of the flush draw and the fact that Hero has the board pretty blocked makes me more inclined to reraise the flop. If Villain has a draw and bricks the turn it might be hard to get more from him.

If Villain's ahead already on the flop, tough hand. But since you're never folding, you can't really value own yourself. Reraise flop.

calling the flop is fine for the reasons you stated, keep his bluffs and his Ax's involved to the turn. He can still put money in with his flush draws that don't get there ott to.

jamming over his raise on the flop is over playing your hand in my opinion. Your folding most of what you beat. I want to keep him wider going to the turn.

well played

What kind of bluffs is he limp calling PF and the c/r'ing the flop and leading the turn? Sure semi-bluffs like AX of hearts or 45 of hearts that we're ahead of but what else takes that line? Unless he's some super sicko he just doesn't have hands like ATo or pocket 5's here.

I think his range is comprised of hands that have huge amounts of equity against us on this flop (AX of hearts, 33/66, 45 hearts which is almost 50% equity) so getting it in is a meh play. Getting most of the money in on a non-heart turn when a huge part of his range has lost equity is the better play IMO.

I just want to confirm that once we decided to call the flop, we're doing so to get stacks in in the turn correct? Are we folding if a heart comes on the turn and he ships?

If we plan on folding some turns, I'd rather just get it in on the flop. Too many people are scared of monsters in the closet.

Okay, so let's stove this one for the flop.

Here's his range:
A2 -- A9
A6s, A3s
66, 33
45

Against this range you're at 46.3% equity. Now this is a very strong range for him. I'm not even considering that he could be doing this with a naked heart draw or non-heart 45s. Or the possibility that he is doing something wacky with AK. Add those in and you're in MUCH better shape.

I don't have a problem getting it in on the flop here.

I look at it the opposite way, actually. It seems to me that the main advantage of flatting flop rather than jamming is to increase our equity against a draw heavy range on a brick turn, so if you're calling flop you should be folding heart turns or else what was the point of your flat?

very doubtful he is c/r folding this flop so I get it in here.

most opponents don't just c/r and then fold, and i really don't like the idea of flatting and folding ott when any scare card hits.

Barring a soul read, my plan was to get it in on the turn, yes.

Given that this guy was a total unknown, I had a real tough time ranging him. He clearly doesn't have AA, so there was 1 combo of 66 and 2 combos of 33 I was worried about. I actually discounted the flush draw a bit as I knew very little about the guy and wasn't about to give him too much credit for a semi-bluff raise out of position with a flush draw. A draw is a check-calling hand to a typical-low-stakes villain.

I wanted him to continue with the bottom of his range -- one-pair hands and bluffs. Hence the flop call rather than shove. But I thought it was close (hence the post).

This.

I mean, if draws are a big part of his range, and he's basically priced in to call with them vs. AK, why aren't we shoving with a hand better than that?

flop is a super clear shove

yeah like he has so many hands he is stacking off with OTF you should jsut get it in

wp

Do we really think draws are that big part of his range? This is a standard villain in a low-stakes NL game. In my experience, they aren't typically check-raising draws.

Again, I sort of struggled to range him, but I came back to top-pair type hands and weird bluffs given that:

a) he can't have AA
b) there's only 3 combos of sets out there

I could agree that low stakes NL don't typically raise with draws, but if you're putting weird bluffs in his range, I think you have to include semi-bluffs with draws.

overall I think this is played correctly, but how does he view us? that might help assign range and sorry if I missed it.

I think I'd rather ship flop

The reason I liked the call on the flop is because I feel like he has a to have a decent amount of bluffs in his range here. There just isn't that many value hands that he can have.

Plus I think he continues on the turn with all his draws after the check raise on the flop despite having way less equity, which is good for us to.

You're OOP to the turn, you're potenitally giving villain 2 free cards here. JAM OR FOLD.
Also if he has a hand like A3, a 6 on the turn will kill your action (only 2 outs but whatever).

Edit: misread the action nvm. I still prefer a jam to a call though, not only do hearts make you lose to flushes, but also kill your action vs worse 2pair.

Results?

By flating you guys understand you let his fds realize some of their equity? He may be fast playing top pair and the turn may kill your action

Shove or even click it back. I think you having very little fold equity 3 betting the flop.