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01-28-2014 , 10:08 AM

brandoncla

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1/2 NL

folds around
I raise to 10 with A

from the cutoff
SB calls
(stack size 550, SB has about 300)

Flop: 10

SB checks
I bet 15
SB calls

Turn: 5

SB checks
Check or Bet?

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01-28-2014 , 10:11 AM

InTheDark

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I'll take the free card here.

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01-28-2014 , 10:22 AM

mtagliaf

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Either option is good - I lean more towards betting if I think villain might have floated with a weakish pair or gutshot (TJ, 89s, 67s) and will fold to a double barrel on this brick (one that happens to give us some nice backup equity).

If I think there's no way he's folding, then we can take the free card. If we hit our flush, we should bet BIG, because our line looks totally screwy.

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01-28-2014 , 10:28 AM

Ohlongjohnson

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check

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01-28-2014 , 10:30 AM

Ohlongjohnson

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Originally Posted by mtagliaf

our line will look super standard. raise pre. cbet flop. give up on turn. hit something on river and vbet.

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01-28-2014 , 10:52 AM

AintNoLimit

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check

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01-28-2014 , 12:46 PM

QuadJ

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Check most of the time, but betting here sometimes is OK. On a non-paired board when this deep I would bet here more often to setup a big river bet, but on a paired board that is marginal. Mostly I would be targeting villains who will call flop light but give up to turn barrels a lot. If villain is sticky then always checking here.

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01-28-2014 , 12:52 PM

beauvanlaanen

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take a free card in this spot. the 5 really doesn't change anything and you still might get called by random Ax hands, some you chop with and some that beat you. I don't like betting here bc if you get raised you will likely have to end up folding the nfd, which is never fun.

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01-28-2014 , 01:00 PM

daniel9861

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Reads?

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01-28-2014 , 01:54 PM

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Seminoles10

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Bet. You are 150 bbs deep and would be pretty awful for the pot to be $50 when you get there. He could be calling one street and folding with a decent amount of hands. You could even be value betting against qj/78. If he calls turn your 3 extra outs are probably good.

If that wasn't enough I think it's important to keep an aggressive image rather than being the guy that bets one street and gives up.

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01-28-2014 , 01:59 PM

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timmay28

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Originally Posted by daniel9861

Reads?

ya...

reads might help a tad here

lol @ giving advice to op

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01-28-2014 , 02:30 PM

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FourDeuce

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I happen to play too many Axs hands myself, this situation arises and checking the turn is better IMO.

Diamond river comes you can bomb vs sticky villains that might call light because of the b/c/b line.

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01-29-2014 , 12:47 PM

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Playbig2000

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if villain liked the 10

flop, he is going to like the 10

flop even more.

check and see if the flush hits.

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01-29-2014 , 02:31 PM

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daniel9861

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Probably check unless V is scared money or nut peddles turn and river or peels flop way too light and doesn't c/r bluff.

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01-30-2014 , 03:24 AM

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brandoncla

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Originally Posted by timmay28

ya...

reads might help a tad here

lol @ giving advice to op

More like lol at making a post about not making a post.

Ten other people deemed it enough info, and broke it down successfully.

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01-30-2014 , 12:11 PM

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Dirty313

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bet, if you miss you can still rep a K,Q or J on the rive rif that hits or the diamond

check back ace on the river if it hits, but call a small bet if he leads river

if he c/r turn, fold if its too big, call if youre getting 3:1 or better

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01-30-2014 , 03:40 PM

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brandoncla

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Originally Posted by Dirty313

I was getting 3.4:1 to call. I mean what's my play gonna be if I call and miss? With most likely a huge bet on it's way. Not to mention I could already be drawing dead.

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01-30-2014 , 09:19 PM

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Aleksei

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I just check my option otf, I don't have a **** ton of equity with two bd draws and an over.

As played, take the free card.

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01-31-2014 , 05:19 AM

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Pay4Myschool

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Originally Posted by Dirty313

Even 3:1 is marginal at best to call with a draw on paired board.

Turn is dependent on villain description. There are a ton of sd combos that are there which we are ahead of . If he likes chasing but peels flop wide and folds less than top pair with all his made hands it's a standard double.

Jx river is not a great triple card, completes 78 and qj got there . Tx doesn't mind that card and looks you up. I hope you bomb kj/aj otr if you bink that the times you have that lol

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