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A10ss: TPTK vs double barrel A10ss: TPTK vs double barrel

08-03-2015 , 05:55 AM
5/5
Hero is new to the table. No reads.
All players involved are mid 20s male.

V1 (BB, $800)
V2 (MP)
Hero (BTN, $700)

Pre:
V2 limps, another limp, Hero completes with A10
V1 makes it $45, V2 calls, Hero calls


Flop (~$140) 9102

V1 bets $110, V2 folds, Hero calls

Turn (~$360) 5

V1 bets $300, Hero ???

Last edited by danhendo888; 08-03-2015 at 06:07 AM.
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08-03-2015 , 06:04 AM
Raise pre the first time. I'd probly limp/fold as played, though. $45 is a big raise out of the blind and people tend to be very tight raising out of the blinds. You're also not that deep. As played, I'm snap folding the turn. The very worst hand you're gonna see here is AQcc and it's more often just JJ+.
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08-03-2015 , 03:56 PM
Does that mean V1's line is a good play with his entire range on this type of board verses two limp callers?

E.g if he was holding KQss, AJ-AKo, 66 etc

If you were in V1's shoes with AKo, would you keep firing and rep the overpair against an unknown i.e hero in this situation?
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08-03-2015 , 04:58 PM
I'm new to this LLSNL stuff but limp calling big raises makes me feel very uncomfortable. Especially with no reads on Vs
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08-03-2015 , 07:27 PM
Raise pre. Limp/call is marginal at best. Don't hate it, as long as this isn't always a call.

Flop I can live with a float, although I don't think our pair is good here. I am probably folding though.

Turn is 100% fold.
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08-03-2015 , 07:30 PM
limping pre with ATss is pretty bad. Calling that giant raise pre is even worse.

Flop call is fine

Turn is a fold.
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08-03-2015 , 09:04 PM
Limping ATs on the button after a MP open limp????? You can have induced a raise from BB if he is any good, but ATs isn't good enough go me to slowplay so I fold to the raise pre.

Mostly I am calling a bet on this flop but given villians sizing I think his range I more weighted to overpairs betting for value. The players that bet overcards here can barrel the turn and force us to fold the best hand. Maybe super weak but I'd consider folding the flop even. Calling big bets and potentially folding the best hand on a late street makes me want to cry.
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08-04-2015 , 12:21 AM
I'd raise PF the first time around. Not sure why you're not raising your button with a hand this strong. As played, I'd just fold to the BB's raise. His range should be pretty strong in this spot and includes a lot of bigger Aces that dominate you. If he turns out to be the type that raises light from the BB to steal then we can exploit that later once we have better reads.

As played I'm snap folding turn. He has an overpair here pretty much always, and when he doesn't, he has a hand like AK/AQ with hearts.

Edit:

Quote:
Originally Posted by danhendo888
Does that mean V1's line is a good play with his entire range on this type of board verses two limp callers?

E.g if he was holding KQss, AJ-AKo, 66 etc

If you were in V1's shoes with AKo, would you keep firing and rep the overpair against an unknown i.e hero in this situation?
No, because I wouldn't expect most unknowns to fold AT in this spot. V doesn't know that we're capable of exploiting his tight range by folding in this spot.
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