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07-02-2016 , 12:29 AM
1/2 pound 7 handed table. quite tight pre.

V1 200bb cold call 42/pfr 21 (116 hands)
V2 100bb cold call 37/pfr 13 (46 hands)
V3 150bb cold call 25/pfr 25 (20 hands)
Hero got 150bb.

V1 is a reg LAG.
V2 is a fish.
V3 is a good TAG or LAG,I am a unknow to him,but I played quite solid.

Preflop
V1 (utg)open 3bb,Hero (utg+1)call with 9s9c,V2 (mp 1)3bet to 9bb,V3 (bb)call,V1 call,Hero call.

Flop=Ks5d7h (36.5bb)
V3 x,V1 donk 6bb,Hero call(?),
V2 call,V3 xc.

Turn=9d.( 60.5bb)
V3 x,V1 donk 6bb,Hero 2bet to 32BB(?),V2 fold,V3 x shove 130BB,V1 fold,

Hero?

few thought:
V3 have very low equity here,as 55 77 will xr on flop,so I really put him on 68s or strong combo draw.

As he know I am value betting on the turn,I really donot think he will shove strong draw for a semibluff.

Is my line is OK?
how about the 2bet size on turn?
should I fold pre?
Should I never fold to a shove on turn?

And I know I will fold K9 pre. But if I got K9s here, is a call or fold?





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07-02-2016 , 01:23 AM
I would never fold here unless v is a nut peddler


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07-02-2016 , 01:29 AM
I don't suppose you have an idea of what V3 would cold call a 3 bet with?

Has he been there long enough to know V2 is a fish? That would make 68s much more believable.
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07-02-2016 , 01:37 AM
only hand that beats you is 68. But that x/shove is super super strong. He almost always has 68 here. getting just over 2:1, so calling is not that bad.

I would grudgingly pay him off. Just can't fold for that price.
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07-02-2016 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dangus
I don't suppose you have an idea of what V3 would cold call a 3 bet with?

Has he been there long enough to know V2 is a fish? That would make 68s much more believable.


this is his frist cold call. I do believe he cold call Axs, 57s+,any pair,or flat AA KK. and i am sorry that the cold call hud includes prf. so his cold call is 0.

I am sure after 1 hour play he can know V2 is the fish,or one of the worst player on table. as V2 3bet is so small (VS a o riaser and a caller),so I am not sure if he will call 57s+
for the implied oods.


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07-02-2016 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
only hand that beats you is 68. But that x/shove is super super strong. He almost always has 68 here. getting just over 2:1, so calling is not that bad.

I would grudgingly pay him off. Just can't fold for that price.


I was worried as well. I donot think a good player will xc a set on flop in a 4 way pot. so turn card enhanced his range. I call the shove and he showed Ad8d. river is a blank.

I call the shove as if a fold the best hand,it is a mistake=pay his 68 off.

Is my line is OK?


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07-02-2016 , 02:36 AM
How often do good players cold call a 3 bet with 68 suited out of the BB?

I think a weirdly played KK or AA is more likely. Perhaps AdKd.

Call, and if he has it so be it
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07-02-2016 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hitchens97
How often do good players cold call a 3 bet with 68 suited out of the BB?

I think a weirdly played KK or AA is more likely. Perhaps AdKd.

Call, and if he has it so be it


yes I tank a while and do not believe he will 100% cold call 3bet oop with 68s. let's say he would cold call 25% (50% is still too high). so I think there is only one combo that I Iose(still have 22% equity)but win 72% equity VS combo draw. so if he got 68s I think it is a cooler,rather than a mistake call. If V is a loose passive(always check call draws) and only be aggrasive with super strong hand,with enough infomation, I could fold here.

I make the call and V showed Ad8d.

thx.



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07-02-2016 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Seanish
yes I tank a while and do not believe he will 100% cold call 3bet oop with 68s. let's say he would cold call 25% (50% is still too high). so I think there is only one combo that I Iose(still have 22% equity)but win 72% equity VS combo draw. so if he got 68s I think it is a cooler,rather than a mistake call. If V is a loose passive(always check call draws) and only be aggrasive with super strong hand,with enough infomation, I could fold here.

I make the call and V showed Ad8d.

thx.



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Yeah, 86s is just not an easy story to believe. Preflop discounts AA/KK chances as well.
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07-02-2016 , 01:22 PM
Easy call. Villain has AK a lot of the time.
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