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Originally Posted by Bud Green
I think it's the right play. Bart Hanson says bad players aren't capable of betting for thin value so if he bets river it's an easy fold. I didn't play it that way though.
If we had AK here, everyone would be saying not to bluff in this spot because we won't have the FE vs a "clueless newbie". This means that betting the river can't be that bad against this guy, altho we're far from "proving" that betting the river is better than check/evaluating with the intention of usually folding, but if you bet the right amount I can't see this guy folding ANY pair here, which brings me back to another question:
You're really putting this guy on 2pair+ after he calls your turn bet? Seems way to pessimistic too me. A lot of players, even clueless ones will raise the turn with 2pair+ on that drawy board (or they'll a least raise a portion of that range, thus allowing us to eliminate some hands). Of course clueless players may not think that way......Have you seen this guy call the turn with monsters on drawy boards in the past?
Bottom line: I suspect this guy has a lot of one pair hands in his range on the river. He's loose preflop, he'll call that flop with any pair probably, he didn't raise the turn which has to weaken his range significantly, and every pair+straight draw and every pair+FD missed on the river except for J
7
(going with the dubious assumption that this guy folds J
3
preflop in this spot).
Also, it sounds like vs this guy we can make a highly exploitable blocking bet (knowing he won't bluff raise), say around the same size as your turn bet, confidently knowing he won't fold ANY pair here. But I'm also open to the idea of betting around half pot here under the same assumptions as above: This guy's range is decently wide and he won't fold any pair here on this board. Either way, in this spot, I probably bet $60 on the river and feel good about it.