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09-17-2019 , 04:53 PM
Hi all,

1/3. Hero new to table, bought in max $500. EP limper several hands ago jammed 66 for $200 eff. and scooped. Unknown postflop tendencies though. Hero overlimps 98dd otb, BB is fish and checks option.

Flop ($10): K-8-8hhs. Checks to me, $10. Limper calls (BB folds).

Turn ($30): 5s. X/$25, call.

River ($80): 6s. V donks $75. Hero?

Thanks,
DT
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09-17-2019 , 05:05 PM
I'm never folding vs. this guy, although your hand looks a lot like an 8.

Played fine, except I often raise this hand OTB.
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09-17-2019 , 05:16 PM
I'm fine with whatever preflop. Being this deep I think a raise is fine since it still creates a very playable SPR, good for metagame, etc., but I have no problem with an overlimp either.

I might bet slightly less (also more stabby looking) on the flop to prevent building a huge pot in bad cooler situations, but whatever.

Same sorta thinking on the turn, but again whatever. Against aggro players (and perhaps players we're unsure of) I would be perfectly cool with a check back to setup a bluffcatch too.

How did this guy get in his $200 preflop with 66? Limp, see a raise and a bunch of calls, and then jam? Or simply lol open jam?

Probably leaning to a sigh call if this guy can at all be aggro, but not exactly loving life either and I think there is a good argument for a fold. We basically only beat a busted flush draw, but how often does a busted flush draw take this line against constant strength? KK isn't out of the question, pretty much all playable 8x hands now beat us, and a couple of backdoors got there. The only thing that perhaps could be considered "good" is that he bet large on the river, which can be taken as "please fold", but it could also be taken as "please have an 8, which is what it looks like you have, and pay off large".

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09-17-2019 , 05:29 PM
I’m pretty sure he just 4! jammed pre over raise and 3!.
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09-17-2019 , 05:36 PM
I'm definitely raising to $20 pre over the limp and much prefer it to overlimping.

I like flop, could go for a small overbet given villains a lot of the time don't view bets as a fraction of the pot.

Turn I'm betting pot again or a little over.

River I'm not doing anything other than call. Folding and raising both seem disastrous. I'm fairly certain you weren't asking about raising though.

Last edited by sixsevenoff; 09-17-2019 at 05:43 PM.
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09-17-2019 , 06:08 PM
I'm probably not folding against anyone who's cold 4bet shoving 66 preflop for $200.

Gcryingcall,imoG
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09-17-2019 , 06:13 PM
river is a snap call.

As I understand it you wanted to limp pre bc he might l/rr ultra wide - that's fine if that's why you limped bc otherwise it's a standard raise over one limper.
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09-17-2019 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
river is a snap call.

As I understand it you wanted to limp pre bc he might l/rr ultra wide - that's fine if that's why you limped bc otherwise it's a standard raise over one limper.
Well also keeping BB in the pot was a consideration.
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09-17-2019 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Well also keeping BB in the pot was a consideration.


It's not like you had aces. theres nothing wrong with winning pre with 9 high.
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09-17-2019 , 11:34 PM
River is a pretty standard call. We are never getting called by a range that we beat when we raise. But theres still plenty of spaz left when he leads.
And #potodds
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09-18-2019 , 10:20 PM
Against a single limper I'd probably raise this pre to try and knock out the blinds and play HU in position against this guy. EP limpers tend to have small PP type hands and are going to x/f 80% of flops. Isoing weak limpers with any playable hand and betting 100% of flops is still printing money.

As played, I don't think I'm good enough to fold an 8 here, even though x/c, x/c, donk lines tend to be nutted. I call but I don't love it. We don't beat anything competently played for value. We are hoping for either spazz bluffs or incompetently played Kx.
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09-18-2019 , 10:56 PM
Raise pre vs just one limp. Vs multiple limps it’s fine to play bingo and limp with this hand.

I love the big flop and turn bets. Nice.

I’d call. It’s possible a guy like this has something stupid that he thinks he’s value betting. And obv hearts bricked.


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09-19-2019 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
Raise pre vs just one limp. Vs multiple limps it’s fine to play bingo and limp with this hand.

I love the big flop and turn bets. Nice.

I’d call. It’s possible a guy like this has something stupid that he thinks he’s value betting. And obv hearts bricked.


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+1

never raising river if that's what you're thinking
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09-19-2019 , 08:06 AM
Against a guy who 4bet jams 66, I’m calling.
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