1-2 effective 250. 7 handed
Very tight/passive table. Lots of limp/folding or limp/calling and playing fit or fold post flop. Hero has LAG image, exploiting the nits I’ve been attacking weakness and barreling.

MP limps, Hero CO 97hh raise to 10, SB nit reraise to 26. Folds to hero calls.
(56) Flop K87shd
Check check
(56) Turn 9s
Check check
(56) Riv 9c
Sb bets 40, Hero calls.


Under the premise that villain would not play AK this way, villain only gets to the riv with KK QQ JJ maybe AA? Idk but not sure what he’s calling with in the river that we beat... so raising only gets called by KK? Seemed very tight to just flat but gotta exploit the nits





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Lol, wut?

Why are you checking turn? River just call is lolbad.

It's extremely unlikely you are beaten because SB isn't going to check that turn with a set. If you make him capable of taking a weird line with like KK, I can play the same game with AA or whatever. Plus you have a LAG image. I guess I could see flatting the river if you have a nitty image and it's like 100% that SB folds everything you beat to a raise.

Turn check is a crime against humanity.

Nits are much more likely to slow play KK than AA, and the board is pretty scary I expect AK and AA to bet for value/protection on the flop and turn, so I take those hands out of his range.
So a bet on the turn is fine to try and get called by QQ and JJ but I Figure I can only get one street of value from those hands anyways and maybe it’s better to get it on the river? (Villain might fold to the turn bet thinking a Riv bet might come as well)
I don’t think AA takes this line, but there are 6 combos of AA and only 3 combos of KK, but I do think that he would play all his KK combos this way; and I’m not sure about AA, it seems possible that he could have AA with this line.

FWIW he did have KK and I kinda knew it (I almost folded tbh) and that might be biasing my thoughts pretty hard rn, because he could have flipped over AA, but do nits really play AA like this? Aren’t they always scared their aces are getting cracked on any semi-connected board? So scared all the time, but with KK they know they can’t get too much action and their hand is so good they just wanna keep u in the pot.
I know that the just call is tight af but it’s a nit! I want to exploit his weakness




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You are justifying bad play and being extremely results orientated. Is this post some sort of weird brag for flatting a boat on the river or do you actually want to receive advice on how wrong you played the hand ?

You're blocking K9, K8, K7, and 98 though

gotta be a troll post

call a 3-bet with 9-7 to a nit who I put on AA or KK

Not much else to say. Im not sure what is worse, the turn check or river call. Even the flop check is somewhat questionable.

He is probably weak by the river so I wouldnt expect to get called very often. You are beat by 3 combos of KK, and 6 oddly played combos of K9/98. KK also gets discounted due to his 3 checks. Usually by the river they will at least bet 10 bucks. Youve got to throw in a raise and hope he levels himself into a call with JJ.

Fold pre to 3!, like always. Nit finally wakes up with a big hand and you call 16 more with 240 behind (15x)?? Not even close to enough....

And as for the rest of the hand....train wreck.

Let's go to the tale of the tape:

Pre-flop: OP played worse.
Flop: V played worse.
Turn: They both screwed this up, badly.
River: OP played worse.

Verdict: By a score of 3-2, V played this less badly than OP.

not sure might be 4-1
V had a fish on the hook and reeled it in

yea ever notice all your troubles start with a bad decision pre flop

How you checked the turn and called the river is beyond me. You called preflop with a bingo hand that misses 90%+ of the time versus their range, then you don't stuff the monies when you hit miracle turn and river cards

If this is how you're going to play post, you absolutely must fold pre

Also, no way in hell do you have a LAG image. No way. You played this hand like a loose passive player.

x2, I have no idea what is happening in this hand on either player's side. Apparently neither of you like money.

is fold to the 3! really correct here? were getting almost 3:1 in position with a suited connector. yes we know that villain is likely very strong (JJ+, AK) but in a way its nice to know that villain doesnt have a balanced range here, he wont be able to make the nuts or even very strong hands on low boards. My understanding is that this will allow me to outplay my opponent on lower connected boards. Am i overvaluing the pot odds here? should I be making folds in similar preflop situations?

as for people mentioning K9, 89 etc, hes a nit! he doesnt 3! these hands here so the point is kind of moot.

as for the turn check, i tried to explain my reasoning earlier... we can only get one street from QQ and JJ...

and to raise the river we must be good 50% of the time when called... 3 combos of KK show up here so we need to find at least 3 other combos that would take this line and then bet/call the river to make this a +EV riv raise. I dont think he would always play AA this way. At least that is my understanding of the situation.

Im really not trying to make a troll post. I was trying my best to exploit a nit, I know everyone is just thinking lol i have a boat ship it, but if u give him 3 or less combos of AA here i cant see how a raise is +EV

You cant be sure enough of this to make checking better than betting. Same with the river. You dont know that he never levels himself into a payoff.

If the absolutes that you are speaking in (He NEVER calls more than one street with worse and NEVER calls a raise with less than KK) are true, then sure, maybe your play is OK.

Except you should still protect your vulnerable 2 pair on the turn. QQ has 8 outs against you. JJ has 12. Dont give him a free look.

Lol bad. I take speculative drawing hand and smash the “@&$ out of it after flop and turn go check / check and then flat a 20bb river bet and then come here to brag about how well I played it. I called a guy’s b/b/b line last night w Ad5d on a QhJs4h 5c Kh run out. V had 33 and MHIG. Soul reads don’t make good threads.

We're not deep enough to pressure V's capped range on low boards. It would be better if you could narrow his 3-bet range even further and if we were deeper.

If you think V folds turn with QQ-JJ you should bet the flop.

If you normally play as bad as you do in this hand, yes, it is a fold, because there is no way you're playing this hand at a profit.

Also you don't have a suited connector.

I could call with your hand here and maybe be profitable, but I'd have about had my stack in by the river.

The average 1/2 rec player could fold to every 3 bet when they aren't holding KK+ and probably do better than they do calling with these sorts of hands.

The reason you're getting flamed is because you're so focused on squeezing a mini bet out of QQ-JJ when you could be murdering AK and AA, which are a big chunk of their range. Also, on the river, they can't bet it for you anymore...you have to raise!

Also, I want to make a pot odds comment here. Most people who 3 bet have AA-QQ/AK type of hands. You get c bet into with very high regularity. It can be tough to realize your full implied pot odds without pouring a bunch of money in by the river when all you have is a draw.

For example, what would you have done if this person bet $40 on the flop? You'd fold, I bet. What would you have done if you'd flopped an open ended straight draw? You'd have put a bunch of money in when you were still an underdog. Etc.

I don't think your hand is god awful to call with, but I'd like it a lot more if you both had $400 and you thought you could fire some bets in when you hit

Think about this comment, OP

Fold pre to the 3-bet.

Frankly, most of the comments in the thread are moot after you get past fold to the 3! pre. The best player IN THE WORLD can't play this hand in this spot at 125 effective profitably over the long run. The math simply doesn't work.

And this comes from someone who routinely plays crap hands for at least one raise when IP. This is an auto fold 100% of the time at your stack depth.

Shorn - I don’t necessarily agree. I would flat the additional $16 Into $40 from a nit 3b. Problem is nits comes in many shapes and colors. A sticky nit, this could be a fold pre. But a classic paranoid, I know you have it nit I’d happily call, even if he showed me K’s. 97s has enough equity and there are enough bad boards for V to make money in that scenario, in position but you have to manage enough aggro into the hand without getting V pot committed.

Not saying this is a great plan most of the time but absolutely would find value in this line in certain situations, and this could be one of them.

All of that being said, I 100% would have got stacked here.

To each their own. I am just pretty confident that you don't flop well enough often enough (including (1) when you hit, (2) when you miss but nit whiffs, and (3) stupid boards where nits fold way too often to any pressure) to make up for the additional $16 pre. If I had to guess, at this stack depth (and depth is the ONLY reason I disagree), the long term EV of calling for the best player ITW would be somewhere around -$5.

And of course if I were to have somehow tilted my way to a call pre (which is the only time I would get to the flop), I absolutely go broke too. You played it horribly if you called pre and DON'T go broke.

Shorn - you’re probably correct here. $250 doesn’t leave you enough room to operate. I mentioned in my post needed space to apply pressure without committing V or H. $250 is probably too narrow a band with a 4:1 PSR and a V with likely near premium holding.