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~900 bb pot 1/2 NL. I do not have the nuts. ~900 bb pot 1/2 NL. I do not have the nuts.

07-25-2017 , 02:05 PM
This felt really standard as I was playing, but it's the biggest pot I've ever played at 1/2 NL, so I thought it was worth posting.

Hero CO ($600): been at the table for about 30 minutes. Recently Doubled through V3. I probably have an aggressive/FOS image from past history at this casino, but not 100% sure how I am viewed at this point. I know V3 thinks I'm reckless and will call down light/play back at me pretty wide.

V1 UTG ($600ish): I have limited history with him, but I know he's a station who rarely leaves the casino with money.

V2 HJ ($350ish): Solid player who likes to gamble, sometimes to his detriment.

V3 SB ($210): very aggressive. Mostly a button clicker. Can't help himself but to bet and raise in almost every marginal situation where calling or checking would be better. Had an $800 stack when I sat down 30 minutes ago. Bet $170 into a $150 pot on the turn into 2 players in an lol spot to bluff and folded to a $310 shove from V1. one orbit earlier I raised pre with QhQd. he called SB and check/raised my $40 flop bet to $110 on Jh8h4c then called my $280 shove. board ran out Kc2s and he mucked.

V1 raises to $10 UTG, 2 callers, V2 calls, Hero calls with 89, V3 calls SB.

Flop ($60): 68T

checked around.

Any argument for betting flop here? I thought about it but decided to just take the free turn card with 6 players to the flop.

Turn ($60) 7

V1 bets $20, 2 folds, V2 Calls, hero raises to $70, V3 shoves $210. V1 tanks for a long time and calls. V2 tanks for a long time and finally shrugs and calls.

This is a situation where, being at the table, I'm 95% sure that neither V1 or V2 is hollywooding here. I am pretty confident neither guy has J9. V2 can definitely have it (suited) in his preflop range, but I was sitting next to him and chatting with him a lot, and he just seemed bemused at the action, and resigned to calling. Not the mannerisms of a guy who has the nuts and is trying to induce. More likely he has a big draw or a 9. V1 doesn't have j9 in his UTG raising range, and he was almost physically uncomfortable at the situation developing. I'm nearly certain he doesn't have J9 either. V3 (SB) can definitely have J9 but he's wider than that. Definitely any 9 takes the same line, and possibly sets as well.

Hero shoves $600ish total. I figure I'm either ahead (against sets/flush draws), or tied and freerolling against V1 and V2, and there's an outside chance that I'm freerolling for the entire pot if everyone has a 9.

Thoughts on turn action?
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07-25-2017 , 02:11 PM
Given your reads, I would play it the same way.
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07-25-2017 , 07:35 PM
Sweet. You are blocking the Tc redraw as an added bonus
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07-25-2017 , 07:47 PM
nh wp
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07-25-2017 , 10:33 PM
Nicely played. My only nitpick would be a larger raise on turn the first time around.
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07-25-2017 , 11:40 PM
Not sure raising turn is good
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07-25-2017 , 11:45 PM
If they have j9 it's whatever. You can freeroll guys who just have a 9.
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07-26-2017 , 01:54 AM
All looks pretty good. I don't hate a flop bet just to get rid of a few players and bump our equity up, but check is fine too.
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07-26-2017 , 07:48 AM
I also like it. Freerolling other 9x for all the cookies here on the turn is freaking nice spot to be in.

The guy who overcalled 210 raise on the turn (v2) can very likely also just be gambling with two pair or a set, hoping to boat up on the river for a massive pot.

If somebody manage to show up with J9 the way this hand was played out+ considered your strong livereads, nice hand.
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07-26-2017 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Eholeing
Not sure raising turn is good

Why not? Because somebody in theory could have J9?
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07-26-2017 , 08:03 AM
Seems pretty standard but as others have mentioned I dont really mind a cbet to get rid of a few players and have more equity but that is neither here nor there

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07-26-2017 , 08:17 AM
Betting the flop is atrocious.

Nothing that beats you is folding.

Nobody with a better draw is folding.

You can draw for free and cooler someone with 2p or FD+ or whatever when you bink -- see as played.
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07-26-2017 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
Betting the flop is atrocious.

Nothing that beats you is folding.

Nobody with a better draw is folding.
These sort of arguments are for when you're heads up or maybe 3 handed. When you have a bajillion opponents and you can make several of them fold, it adds up to a lot of equity even if individually they have small equity.

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You can draw for free and cooler someone with 2p or FD+ or whatever when you bink -- see as played.
Nothing you can hit is very good. The straight draw is a non-nut gutshot. If you make trips you have no kicker.

The actual hand given isn't really that awesome a spot, you're obviously chopping, probably like 3 ways, and could easily be getting scooped by J9. With the turn being a 7C it's fine, but it would be a horrible spot on the 7D or 7S.
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07-26-2017 , 11:20 AM
Standard tournament cooler boss.
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07-27-2017 , 08:23 PM
Spoiler:
V1 called, V2 called

V1: 77
V2: A5
V3: J9
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07-28-2017 , 08:53 AM
Yikes. Amazing. Did you hold?
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07-28-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Yikes. Amazing. Did you hold?
He can't hold, he is drawing dead. Oh wait, sorry, he is drawing to a non club J for a chop, or the T of clubs to win
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07-28-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Buster65
He can't hold, he is drawing dead. Oh wait, sorry, he is drawing to a non club J for a chop, or the T of clubs to win
he could hold for the sizable side pot
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07-28-2017 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
he could hold for the sizable side pot
Yeah, my bad, I dunno why I thought H had only 300, misread the OP.
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07-29-2017 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Yikes. Amazing. Did you hold?
nah. board paired and 77 scooped
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