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01-07-2021 , 08:34 AM

OmahaDonk

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 4,900

3-5 spread limit, 600 max bet. Villain is MAWG, 3000 effective, playing LAG pre and reasonable post. More aggressive than passive.

Hero in BB with 8c8d

Pre: Villain in HJ opens to 30 (his normal size), Btn calls, Hero calls

Flop (93) : Ts8h2d

Hero checks, Villain bets 75, Btn calls, Hero raises to 275, Villain calls, Btn folds

Turn (718) : 6h
Hero bets 600, Villain raises to 1200, Hero calls

River (3318) : Th
Hero..

We have around 1500 behind. Bet or check call?

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01-07-2021 , 10:26 AM

sixsevenoff

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Versus 6x sizing from a LAG and a call in between, I would 3 bet this pre to $180.

Flop looks good.

Would villain ever raise the turn with T + FD? If so, max 3 bet the turn. If not, I just like call because I don't ever see an OP doing this.

River seems like x-c lose to four combos of 97s, one combo of TT, and beat three combos of 22, MAYBE one combo of Q

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01-07-2021 , 10:41 AM

twitcherroo

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$600 OTR, reraise if raised. Trying to get stacks in here. Note there are no T8s combos left. You only lose to TT, 79hh or T8o. Not at all getting MUBSY here.

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01-07-2021 , 10:56 AM

blue moon

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hands like this are why i think playing super deep is stupid. i dont ever wanna be deep enough where i have to worry about check calling in this spot

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01-07-2021 , 10:58 AM

sixsevenoff

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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff

EDIT: Here I go again, wow. The river paired. We lose to one combo of TT, max bet river. What I said is for if the river didn't boat us up.

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01-07-2021 , 11:34 AM

Viral25

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3bet pre is reasonable, 88 would be my bottom tho.

Flop, yup, good.

Turn sizing is too big. When the obvious draw comes in, some overpairs are gonna find folds. 350 would be better imo.

AP, river jam is obvious.

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01-07-2021 , 11:51 AM

samo

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^
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River - opponent would be getting > 3-1 on a call, thus bet.

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01-07-2021 , 11:53 AM

sixsevenoff

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Originally Posted by twitcherroo

$600 OTR, reraise if raised. Trying to get stacks in here. Note there are no T8s combos left. You only lose to TT, 79hh or T8o. Not at all getting MUBSY here.

You misread the OP in the same way I did...Assuming we don't have a boat on the river, this line is a punt because villain should never have an overpair here.

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01-08-2021 , 12:03 AM

twitcherroo

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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff

You misread the OP in the same way I did...Assuming we don't have a boat on the river, this line is a punt because villain should never have an overpair here.

I have no idea what you’re talking about? What did I misread? We have the 4th nuts and I’m stacking off here 100% of the time. We lose to quads, tens full and the straight flush. If he has one of this no big deal.

Also Because everyone here has reading comprehension problems, it’s 600 max bet. H has 1500 left so we can’t shove, but we can max bet 600 and then raise any raise.

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01-08-2021 , 06:15 AM

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OmahaDonk

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Just to clarify, the river paired the board, completed the backdoor flush, and there's a potential straight flush that would've been the nuts on the turn.

I didn't articulate this well but villain is very loose pre and absolutely has hands like T8o and T6s

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01-08-2021 , 11:51 AM

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sixsevenoff

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Originally Posted by twitcherroo

Take it easy man, no need to go all Bill O'reilly on me.

Anyways, just call if villain raises us otr - dynamics are weird because of betting limits, but I doubt villain raises a flush otr.

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01-08-2021 , 02:08 PM

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MRBA

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TT is the hand I'm scared of, although I guess 97hh is possible(?). T8o/T2/T6 seem very unlikely. I think you have to bet the $600 here since he can plausibly have 22, 66, 97 not hearts or an overplayed overpair or ATs.

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01-09-2021 , 03:22 AM

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browni3141

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I'd donk. I think villain's going to check back too often on this card to merit trying to get an extra bet by x/r.

If you click the call button it better be because there's no more money left to wager. x/c is missing heaps of value.

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01-09-2021 , 03:29 AM

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monikrazy

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Against good lag, lead river - he should correctly read you for many boats given your line.

Against bad lag, xr all day.

Xc would be atrocious, villain has so few better hands than ours.

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01-09-2021 , 06:54 AM

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OmahaDonk

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Result:
We went check check and he showed 97o

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01-09-2021 , 07:35 PM

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jdr0317

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When the river changes the board this much, we absolutely must have a donking range. This card clearly favors us too.

I’d count to ten and push all of my chips into the middle

Edit: just saw it’s spread limit. I think donking is still better.

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