History hand 1:

1/2/4, 1 EP limp, V (200) opens to 12 OTB, Hero (200) looks down at AQhh in SB and thinks "this guy is tight, will put me in a bad spot if I 3b and whiff flop, so let's just muck it and wait for a better spot".. straddler and limper calls

Flop (3way) comes 458, checks around
Turn 2, straddler bets 1/2 pot, limper raises, V shows me 97s and folds, straddler calls
River 6, straddler shoves with 23o for rivered straight, limper folds

History Hand 2: (very next hand)

1/2/4, V opens to 15 in CO, I look down at AQo OTB and flat this time, straddler calls

Flop comes 238r, V cbets 1/2 pot, and we both muck.

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OTTH.. H1 (an orbit later) eff starting stacks ~200

1/2/4, V opens to 15 in CO, Hero flats 88 OTB, 2 other calls

FLOP (~60): 224r
V bets 32, only Hero calls

TURN (~124): 5x
V bets 72, Hero ?



H2 (a little later, after Hero moves to V's right)

1/2/Hero's straddle, 6-handed, V opens to 11 UTG, only Hero calls with 88 again this time

FLOP (25): K99cc
Hero checks, V bets 12, Hero calls

TURN (49): 4x
Hero, V bets 28, Hero ?


I've been playing super tight in this game, and yet when I pick up some sort of hand, people are double-barreling into me.. I don't know what to do ..

Pathetic fold of AQhh in example. You should stop reading gobbledygeek posts.

In both example hands fold flop and definitely fold turn.

Lol, I think the buyin is getting to me. Should we just be 3betting and start praying that we get folds? There's no room for post-flop poker with 50bb effective stacks.

At least you are honest enough to share your AQs fold

H1 is the clearest threebet of all your hands.

H2 I´d 3bet as well, but against a larger open, in position, flat is ok imo. Call flop.

H3 not sure about pre. As played, not sure about turn. Probably fold.

H4 not sure about pre as well. As played, turn is a pretty clear fold.



I think you posted some interesting hands here. Pre is very close imo in all spots. Also, the guy might have a pretty clear sizing tell.

Hand 1: If you are perceived to be as tight as you think you are (though are you sure you're not percieved as weak/tight?), I would 100% be barreling the turn (as the villain) with any Ax hand. However, you are setting up to play for an easy 1/2 PSB on river. So I understand getting away from the hand. Personally, I would need a decent read, but am likely to call turn with a reevaluation and possible call on river against most cards except a board pair or A. To call river, I need to be pretty confident my Villain can triple barrel with missed draw.

Hand 2: Sucks being OOP doesn't it? I'd fold to flop bet. Could easily be air, but what cards come on the turn that you feel confident calling a turn bet against? Probably, only an 8. Definitely a fold on the flop.

I feel very weak/tight playing in this home-game tbh. But again, this player is tight-ish mostly (although I saw him raise BTN with 74s once).

Are you folding? 3betting?

Easy fold for hands 3 and 4. With AQs I call and hope for hearts in the first hand.

Hand 1: OK but you should give up flop some of the time against tighter villains and continue on turn if villain can barrel.

Hand 2: Unless villain will c-bet and give up a lot I would just fold this on the flop. You can be beat already and few run outs look good with 3 over cards already on the board.

At a table of aggressive villains who will c-bet flop and barrel turn a lot you need to give up on flop a bit more and call turn more. If villains are going to bet/bet/shove a lot then give up flop unless you have a hand that can call river shove. Looking at their ranges for making these moves matters a lot. If you are used to playing passive villains then ones that are too aggressive can be a shock. You will be giving up more on the flop but you will also make more when you do hit.

H1: Does he have small pairs that are now full in his range? Would he double barrel with overs or a smaller pair? It's a tough spot but if your read is that V is tight, I think you can find a fold here. Some chance he noticed his Ax picked up equity ott and he's betting again, but if he's as tight as you say, I think the fold is fine. I'd be looking to call flop, give up to a turn bet but hopefully check back, and call down non-scary rivers (not A or 3).

H2: Easy call pre. On this board, you can really just give up OOP. Any card higher than an 8 is bad for us and we could already be drawing slim or dead. Not ideal to put in money when the two most likely scenarios are flipping or ****ed.

Folding 88 on the flop against a villain c-betting as much as this one against a hero who is tight seems weak. Easy call. Turn is tougher. You can find some call downs, but a lot of people will double barrel here. You're only losing to 99+, and villain might actually have 44-77 if he C-Bets like this trying to fold over cards. We're ahead of a lot.

Problem is my own tight image. Which means V should be slowing down OTT once I call his flop cbet. Also, I can't call turn and fold river for that price. So must make my decision now.

I'll expound upon wait's worthless response & give some reasons why folding AQs is not profitable long term against the vast majority of opponents.
You have 1 limper in EP & then it folds to V OTB who makes it $12.00.
He could have quite a large range here. He only raised 3x the straddle, making it profitable for both the straddler & limper to call. He certainly doesn't want to see a flop 4 way with QQ, eh? What about AK? probably not. So I would think he'd raise more with those holdings.

However, let's put him on a really tight range of TT+, JTs+, KJs+, AJs/o+, KQo. That gives you 62% equity, tying 9% of the time. You have to tighten his range up to the top 4% of starting hands for it to be close to a coin flip & you still have an edge. You also have the image of being weak-tight, raising OOP, if you choose to do so.

Also note, that for every pocket pair <TT that the Button opens with, your equity rises.

Now I don't think there are many out there who loath playing OOP more than I, however, I am not folding AQs in the blinds in this situation & IMO a raise is definitely in order, because I want to appear uber strong for when I c-bet the flop. I want some dead money in the pot & fewer Vs to contend with post flop. Which is the same thing I'd want with TT+

By raising 4x the Button's raise, you are establishing, without question [due to your weak-tight image] how strong your hand is. Now, even though there's $23 in the pot b4 the rake, the Button has to call $36 more to see a flop.

If the others fold & the Button's range is TT+, AQs/o, KQs & he folds KQs & AQo, that is 6 of the 39 combos he opens with, or 15% of the time. Maybe he folds AQs or even TT....but not likely, although it's not likely that his range is as tight as I made it, but you said he's a tight player, so....but wait! He raised to $12 with 97s!!!! He is going to fold so much of range of preflop!

However, look how well your hand fairs against a really tight range with your image.

IMO, a good part of your problem playing your hand like this, due to the fact that you're not use to it, is giving off tells when you raise pre. You need to take your time & cut out your raise after thinking for 10 seconds what you want to accomplish & commit yourself to a c-bet OTF should you get it HU. Which you will, cause only a complete moron is calling $48 with 23o & the limper probably called due to the pot odds & closing the action.

If you're right handed, place the elbow of your left hand on the rail & rest your palm on your right chest to check your breathing. Picture the other Vs folding & you making a c-bet of 65% of the pot, after the rake, no matter what the flop is, should the Button call.

Odds are well in your favor that everyone was folding to a $48 raise in this situation & winning $17 every time they fold is gold & a good percentage of the time when only the Button calls, but folds the flop is delicious.

You can't play poker to make the best hand before shoveling money into the pot; you didn't come to play bingo.

^ would you do the same if BTN made a bigger open?

Depends on who it is. "If you know your enemy, as well as you know yourself, you need not fear the results of a 100 battles." - Sun Tzu

If you play in a small pool of players, knowing your opponents better than they know you, will increase your +Ev. Start by never, ever, showing your hand in those home games. If you can get your V to show on the river, when it's on you to show first, do it. If the flush got there & it beats you, say "Flush wins" & see if he'll show. If all you have is top pair, tell him & see if he'll show a better hand so you don't have to show your kicker. Do whatever you have to do, so you give up as little info as possible.

You pegged the Button as 'tight" and 97s is at the bottom of the ~29% of all starting hands. Now you know, that under the same circumstances, if your hand is in the top 15%, you are in the top 1/2 of his range.