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03-23-2019 , 12:46 PM
Vil 1: Asian Tag, UTG +1 on the tighter side but seems like a decent reg. $900 stack
Vil 2: Just sat down. $500 stack. BB
Hero: Tag, $3000 stack

Hero straddles UTG
Vil 1 raises to 30
BB calls
Hero decides to call for $20 more

Flop ($90)
5h6hKc

Hero leads out for $60. Vil 1 calls and bb folds.

Turn: Qh ($210) - a good card for his range, not very good for me.
I lead out for $75 quickly and he calls.
At this point I've got his range narrowed down to pretty much KQ+ or Ahx+,
so I'm loosing to QQ, KK, KQ, and beating AA, AK, and maybe some Ahx.

RIver: ($360)
9c
Pretty much a blank. I decide to check/call a reasonable bet and hopefully get value from the bottom of his range.
He leads out for $175. I wouldn't put a bluff past him but I don't see it likely. Looks like strong value to me, if I think he only goes for three streets with AK here half the time after I've show decent strength does this make it a fold?

My main problem with this hand is the turn. My bet was way to small. I think leading out here is still beter then checking though? $125 seems like it would have been a good bet?
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03-23-2019 , 01:21 PM
I mean we're getting 3:1 on a call here and against that range we have about 40% equity if this V has 87s in his range also which i presume would take this line also as your bet sizings have very much priced him in. Not sure i like leading the flop when we can be check raising.

Based on your line, if i have AA here i'd definitely be going for thin value so it's a tough spot but i think we need to call it off.
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03-23-2019 , 01:32 PM
Interesting hand, thanks!

The issue here is that H has changed his story otr. After two streets of aggression, H turtles. This levels H. V doesn't fear a flush, straight or set now. If H leads river, V has to worry about a huge range that he's behind.

I don't mind the turn bet size bc it looks strong as many times as it looks like a blocker when the FD completes. I think the problem is the river passivity.

AP, I can find a call at 3-1. V would have re-raised turn w/ all his small flushes, sets and two pairs. I'm not saying you're good here, but I think there's plenty H beats here and is getting the right price for crying call.
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03-23-2019 , 03:18 PM
I think it’s important to note here that V1 could have top pair on the flop, and turned flush on the turn. AKhh is in his range, KQ, KK, QQ. I don’t see him betting just top pair for value here.
Your turn bet is on the small side like you said, and really just seems like a blocker bet.
I don’t think laying down is terrible here, and I think checking turn would have been better than $75 personally. Tricky hand though OOP. It’s almost a flip a coin spot, but I think you’re behind here. You really beat less than it seems if V is tight and intelligent, as you seem to suggest.
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03-23-2019 , 03:19 PM
If you called I bet he flipped over AKhh.
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03-23-2019 , 03:28 PM
was the preflop raise sizing a flag to you

$30 on a $10 straddle is small

I call here because you defended your straddle against a weak PFR and V may think you got a weak K
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03-23-2019 , 03:32 PM
If anyone could name a single combo villain has that we beat when he bets this river that would be great.
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03-23-2019 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
If anyone could name a single combo villain has that we beat when he bets this river that would be great.
Exactly. That’s what I’m saying.
Unless V is a dummy or bluffing you’re beat here.
There’s no way V would value bet a hand like A-K here unless he’s an idiot or has the Ah and is turning his made hand into a bluff, which is something that very few LSNL players do even if they aren’t dummies. You’re almost certainly beat here.
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03-23-2019 , 04:07 PM
You could also just xr the flop. As played would probably lead river again.
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03-23-2019 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
You could also just xr the flop. As played would probably lead river again.
+1
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03-23-2019 , 08:07 PM
Calling AP, with your sizing ott and check otr reg could be going for value w/AK, AA
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03-23-2019 , 09:00 PM
Calling it off for this sizing. Obviously expect to be beat sometimes, but you're ahead of AA/AK and missed hearts. Also when you size down turn then check river, a lot of Vs are not going to expect you to have anything more than 1p.
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03-23-2019 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by branch0095
Calling it off for this sizing. Obviously expect to be beat sometimes, but you're ahead of AA/AK and missed hearts. Also when you size down turn then check river, a lot of Vs are not going to expect you to have anything more than 1p.
Missed hearts?
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03-23-2019 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Missed hearts?
Oh wow. Completely missed that the flush hit on the turn. I even checked the OP twice before posting and could have sworn the front door flush bricked out. My mistake.

Seeing this somewhat changes my opinion of the hand, as obviously there are way fewer bluffs V can have since the flush did indeed come in. I'd actually lean more towards a fold whereas I initially believed this was an easy call when I thought the flush bricked out.
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03-24-2019 , 07:40 PM
Did you call here Jeff? Results?
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03-24-2019 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
Did you call here Jeff? Results?
Ended up calling and villian showed AhKh.
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03-24-2019 , 09:56 PM
bad to straddle under the gun, thats dumping money in the trash.

betting so small on the turn makes it easy for him to mess with you. i like a check better with that third heart out there. too much trouble for you.
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03-24-2019 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
If you called I bet he flipped over AKhh.
Subtle brag all...
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03-24-2019 , 11:39 PM
Or not so subtle.
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03-25-2019 , 01:12 AM
You correctly identify this is a bad turn card for you. So you...make this oddly sized turn bet? Not a fan.

More at issue with flop. Why are we donking? Looks like a good spot to go for a check call or check raise mixed strat. The PFR is the one with all the good hands on this board, and the marginal hands that can defend against bluffs.


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