Table: Md Live, 1:30 in the morning. Friday night.

Hero: I've got a fantastic image if anyone is paying attention. I haven't shown down a single bluff. Every hand that I've gotten to the river with, I won. I'm not even sure that I shown down a single hand to this point in the night. I've got $325 in front.

V1: ($350) Tight, but not unreasonably so. He likes to raise big when he raises but not too often. He cBets less than 50% of the time, and always only if he has something. Will not cBet speculative hands, like open ended straight draws and things of that sort that he might flop. Generally bets small post when he does.

V2: ($200) Likes to call a lot, generally bad post flop. Doesn't get enough value when he is winning. Plays very straight forward.

V3: ($435) Hard to pin down, I think he's decent. He doesn't take stabs at orphan pots enough but value bets fairly well, and makes decent calls. Capable of raise folding and raise calling non nuts on the river. Not fantastic, but I'm not looking to get into too many pots with him.

Pre flop:
Post SB
Post BB
V1 straddles
V2 calls
Hero calls with 55
V3 calls
SB folds
BB calls
V1 raises to $25
V2 calls
Hero calls
V3 calls
all other fold

Flop ($100): KJ8
V1 checks
V2 checks
Hero checks
V3 checks

Turn ($100): J
V1 checks
V2 checks
Hero bets $60

Thoughts?

V1 never has a King, AA, or and J here based on the way that's hes played so far.
V2 likey doesn't have a pair, might have a flush draw, but it's a bit hard to tell
V3 is a bit less certain.

Can I rep the J here and get folds often enough?


Side question, what if the turn is an 8, what if it's a K? Is the same play any better or worse with either of those cards?
Thanks.

Looks like a good spot to take a stab once V1 and V2 check twice and V3 checked behind on the flop. You could probably make it 50 and save 5bb (seems trivial but 5bb is 50+% of a 1/2 winrate). I would be less apt to stab at a K or 8 turn cause a J could have definitely checked the flop but would probably get sticky once another K comes. That's somewhat the case if an 8 turns after no one bet the flop a J might stick around.

I think given stacks/implied odds with tight players it's a light call pre-flop. With multiple villains I like checking the whole way. If your good than great if not you put some balance in your opponents minds with the idea you won't always bet light LP with checks to you. I.E. Checking doesn't always mean you have nothing

I think your impression of V1 is incorrect.

Tight players generally do not straddle.

Based on the way this played out, I don't think you're going to be able to represent trips. Your bet screams 2 pair though.

im checkraising the **** out of you if you were to try something of the sort; that being said, doesnt seem like youd have to worry about that with these guys. but know that more astute players may c/r if you do that( followed by river barrel obv.), and plan acoordingly

So you are unsure to no clue where 2 of the 3 villains in the hand are at. Seems like a perfect time to bluff of 30bb's.

I think that flop smashes a lot of preflop calling ranges and I would expect you to get called here a lot... possibly in more than one spot. I just c/f at any opportunity in a multi way pot in this situation. If you do choose to stab at the turn I'd make it smaller... maybe $40. Kings are likely to call, as are FD and obviously a jack is calling.

Unless these guys actually pay attention to bet/pot ratios, I go smaller here. Any number noticeably larger than the open should do, so make it $35-40. Then it has to work less often.

Looks like a good time for a stab, but just realize that your not folding out any Ks. Not too many Ks will have checked this twice though, so you have about a 40% chance of it working, is my guess.

board texture, no equity and three villains makes this a bad place to stab