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03-06-2014 , 11:09 AM
$2/$5 with $10 straddle

Hero: 500
Villain: covers

i dont think i've ever seen villain fold preflop. that said, i still go ahead and raise to 35 from the BB on his straddle. maybe this is bad since he always calls and im out of position. but he always calls flop too so on many boards i can take it down with 2 barrels. plus my hand flops ok vs ATC. maybe this is spew tho.

folds to Hero who raises 35 on BB with 87, straddle calls.

Flop ($70): A74

Hero bets 45, villain raises to 145, hero??

villain has called nearly all of my preflop raises as well as all of my cbets, even in MW pots. so the relevant history/dynamic is that he is taking every pot away from me in position and i am getting frustrated. usually floating flop and betting when checked to on later streets.

also, villain would never raise a naked ace here. ever. so what is our plan vs his range? i dont really think he is ever stone bluff raising as he would likely just float flop and bet turn so i think he's semibluffing...
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03-06-2014 , 11:16 AM
I doubt you are being exploited here. Just fold. Next time have 56

I'm not sure how much I love raising and c-betting given opponent tendencies
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03-06-2014 , 11:24 AM
Dude, it's not going to work every time. I'm amazed it's worked so far.
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03-06-2014 , 11:29 AM
he has you beat this time, even with the dynamic going on. Just fold and wait for the next one.

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and please for the love of God do not call Live 2/5nl "500NL"
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03-06-2014 , 11:33 AM
I echo bwslim post. I probably also raise here since our sc is pretty solid, but since he will be calling with atc I would probably make just a $30 raise since it allows for slightly more flexibility postflop.
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03-06-2014 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
I doubt you are being exploited here. Just fold. Next time have 56

I'm not sure how much I love raising and c-betting given opponent tendencies
This.

I'm also more inclined to flat PF.
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03-06-2014 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

Spoiler:
and please for the love of God do not call Live 2/5nl "500NL"
lol +1

and good luck getting LLSNL to advocate your re-raise all in semi-bluffs.
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03-06-2014 , 01:15 PM
If you are VERY confident in your read that V won't do this with the naked ace, then isn't re-raise the right play?
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03-06-2014 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Grigory
If you are VERY confident in your read that V won't do this with the naked ace, then isn't re-raise the right play?
So he will fold or continue with better than 1 pair?
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03-06-2014 , 02:10 PM
In game I would absolutely fold.

I also assumed that we were ahead of a range that contained every flush draw, open ender, and better than TP. That's not right, we are actually a pretty big dog to that range.
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03-06-2014 , 03:35 PM
Get the money in the middle of the pot
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03-06-2014 , 03:42 PM
i thought vs a range consisting of many flush draws, when we bet from out of position and get raised, we should often call and lead non flush turns...
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03-06-2014 , 03:53 PM
Not in a 50bb pot when villain has commited what is effectively 40% of your starting stack.
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03-06-2014 , 09:36 PM
Just be nitty and limp pre if there's no fold equity pre or post flop.

If your read is that he never raises with Ax then his range is gonna be pretty skewed towards semi bluffs and bluffs.
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03-06-2014 , 10:06 PM
sounds like you're beat
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03-06-2014 , 10:12 PM
Why does everyone want to fold if villain never does this with ax?
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03-06-2014 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KenThBA
Why does everyone want to fold if villain never does this with ax?
he fits the description of a passive fish (going by limited info)

passive fish virtually never bluff raise ace hi flops vs this action from op
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03-06-2014 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by timmay28
he fits the description of a passive fish (going by limited info)

passive fish virtually never bluff raise ace hi flops vs this action from op
What are you basing that on?
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03-06-2014 , 10:58 PM
I dont see the connection to always calls and raising an ace flop. Two very different profiles. I think he has a weak ace or fd/ sd or both but not comfy getting it in here as that is the only play besides fold.
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03-07-2014 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by The Face

villain has called nearly all of my preflop raises as well as all of my cbets, even in MW pots. so the relevant history/dynamic is that he is taking every pot away from me in position and i am getting frustrated. usually floating flop and betting when checked to on later
Time for a seat/table change.



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03-07-2014 , 01:12 AM
fold
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03-07-2014 , 01:54 AM
You don't beat players like this by playing bloated pots out of position with suited connectors and no fold equity, and then 3bet shove bottom pair into a calling station that raised you
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03-07-2014 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by beta1607
Time for a seat/table change.
This.

Having V on our direct left puts a limit on the range of hands we can profitably play because we have no fold equity pre or post and we're forced to play our hands strictly for value and because V has position on us we have to raise with a tighter value range than if we had position on V and had information about his hand before our action.
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03-07-2014 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Namdrahsirhc
You don't beat players like this by playing bloated pots out of position with suited connectors and no fold equity, and then 3bet shove bottom pair into a calling station that raised you
Luckily we have middle pair. And luckily he's a station who raised.

Honestly I really don't even think this is close.

The worst (most reasonable) thing we might see is 7x with a kicker that dominates us.

I think everyone is getting confused with a dominating range type analysis where we have AA on 569 and villain's flop 2! range crushes us.

What's funny is many on this forum would want to gii there because "villain can be on a flush draw!"
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