hand is $1700 effective hero covers the table

V is the absolute best player in this player pool right now, has crushed NLHE for 15 years and counting. probably well known by a lot of players on here.

V2 is braindead loose passive.

hero has a winning LAG image
table is very loose passive with hero and V the only two aggressive players on the table

hero is dealt Kd6d
V opens to $20 UTG+2
hero calls on immediate left
V2 calls the button
folds around

flop is J65r
V continues for $40
hero calls
V2 folds
turn is 5 bringing a flush draw
V checks
hero checks
river is a 6 bricking the flush draw
V bets $150
hero raises to $500
V shoves
hero?

inb4 fold preflop

0 chance I'm folding. NH, ship V the pot. But not folding. You're losing to J's and J's only. V should know none of that hits you.

Don't think hero can fold as played, not a big fan of flatting such a marginal hand.

^^So what are the bluffs then? V bets full pot, gets raised and then just decides "hey let's ignore all these other droolers at the table and put in $1700 for no apparent reason vs the only guy with a clue, to see if i can make him fold a range that has almost all the combos of full houses and quads".
Sure, ok, but what hands is he doing this with? And why?

Just because there are very few value combo's, doesn't mean that there are more bluffs available.

OP, if you flatted some monkey's raise deep in the CO with like 53s, i'd happily let you get away with this statement. But if you're gonna flat the best player in the room EP open with random suited crap and 5 stationy 'tards still left to act, i'm gonna quote and shame you.

Also losing to 55. Also fold pre.

I don't know I'd be calling any other players a "brain dead loose passive." Obvious fold preflop is obvious. The best player in your room over the last 15 years is well aware of Zeebo and doesn't expect you to fold. He'll be holding a better FH or quads the vast majority of the time. If you won, good for you. The top player in your room over the last 15 years is slipping badly.

Fold


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I was assuming best player in the room isn’t opening 55 UTG +2. Agree on fold pre.

Has V played with hero a lot and if so, aware that H has a fold button (if true)? Is V capable of playing A5/A6 suited or low suited connectors this way pre flop (mixing these in with his strong hands UTG+2)? These are key questions to evaluate whether there are some combos where you chop or win the whole pot and also whether he'd try to bluff/semi bluff in this spot. 55 is very likely in his UTG+2 opening range in my view. I lean toward fold but if A5/A6/low suited connectors are in his UTG+2 range pre, I'd call. Looks like pocket jacks to me.

What's our plan on the river? Is it really raise/fold or Bet/fold (if he'd checked the river) only?

Against the "best" player in the room, in position, facing a pot sized bet, can we not just call the $150 and not put ourselves in this spot in the first place? Yeah we have a house but it's not the nuts and these puke spots are avoidable, even if we don't fold pre. So better to miss some value by calling I guess?