Timing tells, while reliable, are very tricky. Often in live poker they indicate strength, but in this specific situation I would lean towards weakness, or perhaps not weakness but "fear." For example in a 3b pot people often snap bet their overpairs on dry flops.

Id guess his most likely holdings are weaker Jx or total spazz.

yeah this is a snap call, he has Jx or 77, you lose sometimes you win plenty.

For the love of all that needs RESULTS... post the hidden spoiler thingy that I can't figure out how to use yet lol

Agre that timing tells are tricky...

I think that in this spot, it shows that he wasn't really considering how the K interacted with his and hero's range... So 77 would definitely be a hand where villain might not care, he's planning to shove regardless of river. AJ and QJ I think become a little bit less likely, especially AJ because now he realizes he loses to KJ. I also think it's somewhat unlikely for villain to have KJ here, but hard to say - if he was already planning on shoving, the K otr could potentially make him do it faster.

The timing tell basically makes me slightly more likely to call in this spot, but not a ton. It slightly increases my weighting of 77 while decreasing my weighting of both AJ and KJ. It also would slightly increase my weighting of hands like 9J and 8J.

Result:

That makes a lot of sense. I would even question whether we should be expecting to get three streets of value from QQ+ in the first place.

/banned

Agreed. I think we get the most value from his range with a b/x/b line.

It gets a little tricky if villain leads river, we raise, and get raised on. He really shouldn't be 3! the river with a hand worse than ours for value so I think we can reasonable r/f river.

You guys are thinking about a timing tell that we don't actually have on Villain but not the tell that he's usually passive on rivers, yet he just shoved a very large stack against someone who most likely (pretty clearly) has a J?

If we are ahead, this guy is clearly pretty tilted.