$400 ES

6-way limped pot. Hero in CO with 86

Flop ($25): 864
MP bets $20, hero raises to $80, MP calls

Turn ($185): 3
MP leads $65.

MP had been on a massive heater earlier but is now on cruise control. Generally limping into pots now with the occasional BN raise. Only hand of note was when UTG straddled, +1 made it $25, MP called, and V made it $90 in HJ. Straddle shoved for $5 more and only MP called.

Flop 764r, V bet, MP folded. Turn 9 and straddler won with A9 vs V's 86s. I was very surprised when I saw V's hand.

Best play here?

Call>Raise>>Fold

Turn is easy call

Just curious as to why it's an easy call. What would you range V on to b/c flop and lead turn?

And if he has the flush, we're drawing super slim with neither good odds to call nor IO if we hit.

? we are getting 4 to 1 on a call and will be in position on the river

earlier HH is a bit confusing but nothing to suggest his turn leading range is limited, or even heavily weighted, towards flushes. cliff's notes: he can have a lot, you have a good hand against his range, raising is bad, so call.

400 - 5 - 80 - 65 = 250 left
pot: 25 + 80x2 + 65x2 = 315

V has done a great job of making the pot slightly bigger than a PSB, so you should expect a shove when you call the turn.

BUT

If V could put you on any number of draws, then this is a call because we should expect a smaller value bet from them on the river or a check hoping you'll bluff (and of course you will check behind instead).

V's range includes all sets, straights, over pair, and combos, so I think calling the turn is correct and re-assessing on the river depending on the card and action.

With V's small lead on turn here, he could have a lot of hands, and as stated, I think it's worth a call when you have position. Raising doesn't accomplish much.

True 4:1, but 4:1 to do what? I'm hoping for one of four outs which is like 12:1. And we have position but all that means is that we're praying it checks down.

This assumes you range him only on sets, straights, or flushes. And if that is true, then why post the hand?

What draw could I have OTT after I raised flop? I can only think of A8x

The only OP V could have is 99, and I don't see him leading turn even with a . Also, what combos could he have OTT after b/c flop?

It seems to me like his range is heavily weighted towards sets, straights and flushes, and the sets and straight would have been OTF which likely would have reraised back with the FD out there. So the flush seems to be the most likely candidate here and leading turn makes sense and is a good play since he can expect me to check back very often.

Given all this, is calling still the best play? To be clear, I did call, but I hated it when I made it because I had no plan for the river other than to pray for SD (out of my control) or fold to a bet (then why call turn).

Your flop raise is rather large, I don't really like it. I would even be tempted to flatcall in position instead of raise, but seeing the flop is 6-handed, I guess you do have to raise.

What's not to like about the flop raise? It's not that large either. Once I match the $20 bet, the pot is $65, and I made it $60 on top. So it's technically less than a PSB.

Why flat call? I don't want to let diamonds or 97 see a cheap turn nor do I want 77 or 55 to overcall and blink the turn. And a low top two is still vulnerable. If someone has 99, a 4 counterfeits me. If they have hands like A8 or 98, an Ace or 9 kills me.

It's a standard raise for value, to build the pot and to narrow the field.

Flop raise size is fine, turn is an easy flat unless you have a read that this guy only does this with a flush. Seems like there are plenty of other random pair + FD + SD type hands in his range.

Like others have said, if you're giving him only a nitty strong range OTT then obviously we can fold. But then why are you wasting time posting this?

Flop raise is obviously fine.