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Old 03-06-2020, 08:39 PM   #1
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5/5 QQ vs nitty player deep

Hero has been card dead and has for sure a tight image.
Villain seems to be pretty nitty but not bad. Got it in yesterday vs him for his 90bb stack with QQ and he had AA. Today he tripple barreled on T8879r and had TT. It seems like he always has it when putting money in the pot.

1,2k eff.

Hero raises 20 with QQ, mp calls, villain otb squeezes to 80, hero 4b 220, mp folds, villain tank calls.
Flop (470) KK4
Hero cbets 140, villain calls
Turn (780) KK4K
check check
River (780) KK4KA

Not sure how we should play turn and river honestly. Maybe x/c and x/f
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Old 03-06-2020, 09:07 PM   #2
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Re: 5/5 QQ vs nitty player deep

Turn check is criminal, with all due respect.
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Old 03-06-2020, 09:35 PM   #3
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Re: 5/5 QQ vs nitty player deep

Pre seems to be a bit of an overplay given his nitty image. Assuming you are 4b/f here though
Turn is very good for you and you should be betting, he is not folding a full house JJ-
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Old 03-06-2020, 09:50 PM   #4
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Re: 5/5 QQ vs nitty player deep

I would have bet turn.

River is a x/c most of the time.
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Old 03-07-2020, 10:08 AM   #5
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Re: 5/5 QQ vs nitty player deep

Like kid777 said, i think pre is kind of an overplay. by 4betting so large, or by 4betting at all, his continuing range becomes very strong as he folds out his weaker hands.


Contrary to what others have said, i like the turn check here.
Your hand is in a bad shape against V range

whats V range here anyway? JJ/QQ/AA/AK/AQ? I cant think of any other hands.

no point betting and torching more money

i would x/c for turn n river.

Let me know what yall think
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Old 03-07-2020, 10:44 AM   #6
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Re: 5/5 QQ vs nitty player deep

I'm not 4 betting a nit with QQ.

I looked at this hand last night when I was tired, and thought the turn x was ridiculous, but thinking about it now, it comes down to whether he has TT in his range or not.

Going off of description, I put him on JJ+, AK pre. I just don't see a nitty player calling a 4 bet with TT, especially without the odds to setmine.

This comes back to not 4 betting pre, but AP, I actually x flop - we're losing to 6 combos of AA, 8 combos of AK, 1 combo of KK, chopping with 1 combo of QQ, and beating 6 combos of JJ.

I x turn AP.

River is x-f; he's not betting JJ it QQ - we only lose to what he's betting otr.
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Old 03-09-2020, 11:37 PM   #7
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Re: 5/5 QQ vs nitty player deep

Villains range is JJ+, AK i guess. Dont think he calls a 4b pre with TT.
Plan was 4b/f pre.
After thinking and talking with friends about the hand i think betting turn and/or river is overplaying the hand.
I think we should even x/c flop and x/f turn because if he bets flop and turn he doesnt have JJ anymore.

edit: i donk think pre is too large given how deep we are, being oop and with mp in between.
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