V1 EP ~ $1.2k eff. Haven't seen this guy before. He doesn't appear all out maniacal, but certainly spazzy. He limp/called a 2! pot that went multiway. Being second to act, he stabbed at an A high flop with a 6-high runner-runner SD. Maybe 30/10 pf stats.

V2 LP ~ $750 eff. MAWG. Haven't really been paying much attention to him so no solid reads. Early in a session, he double up a short stack after he was c/rai on a J high flop. Shorty had limped QQ pre.


Anyways, hero comes back from break and posts in CO w/ T9o. The pot gets limped and goes to the flop 7 way. BTN folded so we have supreme position.

Flop $29


239 rainbow.

V1 leads $20, V2 calls, hero calls.

Turn $88

A rainbow

x,x,x

River $88

Tx

V1 $45, V2 $100, Hero..?

Fold flop

I'm really struggling to find a hand that plays like this other than another T9 and perhaps an unlikely AT.

I typically find that x turn, r river usually indicates that the river card improved V's hand. HU, I'd give more credence to a weird minraise bluff attempt, but not so much 3-way.

I doubt V has a set+ because why would he check the flop. We've done nothing aggressive in the hand, so there's no reason to expect us to bet for V.

I don't expect V to raise just an A on the river, especially after checking the turn.

AT seems unlikely. It's certainly a call pre for many LLSNL V's and some will call again on the flop. But the turn check seems a bit odd. Still, this is the hand I'm most afraid will show up on the river.

Hands like KT are unlikely to call the flop and unlikely to raise the river.

T2s and T3s are conceivable, but I think pretty unlikely given the pre and flop calls, still they're conceivable, so that gives us a smidge of extra equity.

Nothing other than T9 really makes sense, so I'm inclined to think we're chopping or we're in the "lost his mind" portion of V's range.

I'm a little worried about V1, but I think I still call.

I think folding can't be bad. I think raising would be terrible.

Call whatever

Might be a chop but we're losing a lot. Can't imagine we ever win

ahhh? turbomuck? one of them is repping 45 and we are only invested 23 in a tiny pot.

I'd fold flop. AP, fold, we r chopping at best imo. AT/45s/TT/99 total 15 combos ahead. T9 combos total 4.

+1

Why would we fold flop?

A couple of errors on my part though it will not change my decision. A9 not AT, and number of combos ahead are 12 not 15.

The number of hands Hero is ahead of < hands behind. TPBK doesn't look strong with an opponent betting into 6 others, followed by a call.

Absolutely crushed by villians value range - 22,33,a9. Not a single turn in the deck that we want to continue to put money into the pot against that range and because literally the only runouts we want to put stacks into the pot are 9t/tt/99.

I don't have a problem folding this. But it seems your analysis assumes he plays every had in his range the same way.

We we really think he's checking A9 OTT? The absolute nuts? Sets? He got two callers OTF, wouldn't he bet his monsters on the turn at least some of the time?

I'm not saying those combos are impossible; I am saying giving him all of them seems like it's ignoring playing tendencies.

Fair point. Readless, no history, limped pot with a young opponent behind, it's conceivable V would allow the Hero to take a stab on the money card turn.

Note: I didn't include 33/22 in the 12 combos, which I think he would play faster.

I thought so too. V1 called. He had A3 while the MAWG was sandbagging 22.

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Nice ... Good fold.

Once someone leads and someone else calls you are behind most of the time.

I'm happy to just fold the flop


As played - mehhhhh it's close but probably a fold with this action and these villains.