Hero has been sitting at the table for about an hour, and has a Tagish image. I have not shown down any major hands yet at this point. Villian has made a few comments that make me think he respects my game, and hes seen me have winning sessions the passed night or two.

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CO (Villian): Asian reg probably in late 20s or early 30s that I see most nights. I do not think hes a winner though, probably break even or very slight winner/loser - could go either way. He plays probably something like 25/12 PF. Plays more in position than out so he def has some sort of positional awareness. I have seen him fire at least 2 barrels with draws before on flop and turn. He's capable of playing his draws aggressively at times. He keeps joking asking if I'm coming after him because I recently seat changed to his left, though in reality I did it to get better position and the real fish at the table. He's joked that hes about to 3bet my raises a few times and I jokingly keep telling him vs him I insta call. Other than that no real history, he seems like a nice guy though.

UTG+1: Semi Loose passive white guy, seen him call down a 2 Hands semi light, one with 2nd pair and one with TPWK vs 3 streets of betting. Other than that nothing special.

The Hand:
Effective Stacks vs UTG+1 $1100, vs Villian about $400

Hero is dealt JQ on the BTN.

UTG folds, UTG+1 Calls, Folds to Villian who raises to $25, hero Calls, UTG+1 Calls

Flop ($80): 9T7
-UTG+1 Check, Villian bets $45, Hero Calls $45, UTG+1 folds

Turn ($170): 4
-Villian Bets $100, Hero....??

Looking for feedback on if anyone plays this flop differently (Raise?), and obviously on turn play...

Flatting flop is good here. Do you expect he folds to a turn shove very often? I don't, which is why I just call turn.

I'd say I have some fold equity on turn but not a ton. Does your flop play change if UTG+1 is not in the hand, and if so how?

As played
Flat flop.
Flat turn.
Concede blank river.

Sucks but I think that's the gameplay if you don't raise the flop.

Based on the villain a flop raise would be a good tool in arsenal here and allows you to really take lead on the turn.

You can also pop the turn to something like $230 total but I think that's full of bull**** this will allow you to shove a blank river as a bluff.

FYI aganist a random and likely villian I'd play the flop same as you, and then flat turn as I suspect you did.

raise flop

since you're calling pre your communicating things about v's range or just how outplayable he is...so raise flop

Part of the reason I flat PF is I am deep with utg+1 who has a tendency to call Down light and I still wanted him in the hand if I hit.

Raising to that amount would be AI for villian - He started with $400

I think this makes sense. You have a concealed backdoor flush draw and if you hit the 8 you will stack anyone with a jack.

Ok now for part 2...
-Hero calls $100

River ($370): Q
-Villian shoves AI $225, hero??

lol funny, your description of the villain sounds exactly like me only not asian.

i probably play this the same way and i am folding on the end. you got help on the river but it's not the help you wanted, and it's def not what you needed. I think you are beat here almost always.

Based on your description of Villian he's not firing on all cylinders here with ak and you don't beat anything else. Fold.

I actually think this river is a fairly standard call. We now have AA KK and a couple of less likely two pairs beat. Villian is only shoving 225 into 390 and may feel he is past the point of no return with something like an overpair.

You mis-read the action. Hero only has TPMK.

Based on OP Villain description, we have no fold equity vs this villain so easy flat hoping to bink turn or river then shove, otherwise, fold river. TPMK vs this villain is no good most of the time. Only hand in his range here we beat is JJ.

As played, flatting both streets is fine, fold river.

I think you flat the flop for several reasons: (1) you don't really want to get shoved on and not get a chance to realize your BD equity (2) you want UTG+1 to call and hope he has a jack or another hand he could pay off with if you both hit and (3) you can use your position to take the pot away OTT if he checks.

OTT, there is $270 in the pot after his bet and he has $230 left. Assuming you have no fold equity, we can calculate breakeven equity to shove: 500X-(1-X)330 = 0, X= 39.8%. Versus the range below, you have 35.6%, so if there is even a small chance he folds here you can shove the turn profitably.

board: 9hTc7s4h
QhJh 35.66%
77+, T9, AT,AhTh+,9x7x,Tx8x,9x8x,8x7x 64.34%

I did indeed.

fold river

I flat turn, and prob jam 10x/9x/6x rivers when he checks to me and obviously if i bink

thats a valid point and something i overlooked...reading fail

Why do we assume we have 0 fold equity? I think that is a pretty strong assumption given history of 2 players. I think table banter makes it more likely that we have a really strong hand top 2+, and villian might be willing to let go of A10, K10, JJ, even if hes getting decent odds.

I think we have to shove turn here, because we might not get paid if K, or 8 peel river. We probably get paid on the flush, but only if he has a hand hes willing to commit everything with. Worst case scenario, we have 13+ outs OTR and we are getting more than enough equity if he calls AI. I say we shove turn, utilize our friendly banter that we have built up, hoping for the fold, but content with the call.

It depends on how well villain can hand read. If he's good, we can't raise the turn cause we rep exactly 44. If he's not so good we can just jam the turn. As played river is close, but a fold.

I don't. Rather I just assumed zero fold equity for the purpose of calculating the breakeven point in terms of hero's equity against Villians range. The reality is that there will be some FE. As such, I agree that Hero should shove turn since he almost has the needed hand equity with FE being ignored.

Understood. Good points.

Our pot equity on a shove is 28%. We are 30-32% hand equity vs. V's set or straight (or 36% if we add in a range). Even without regarding FE (which exists), I don't see how we aren't shoving this turn. It looks like all we can do is lose value on the river.

AP, fold river.