Game is crazy. Almost everyone except for me is drunk and doing blow off their cell phones at the table. Topless dealers. Birthday party. A few players at the table get mad at you if you don't participate when they double, tripple and quadruple straddle. We're 7 handed.

Hero: Tag. Ran 1k up to 4k with QQ v's AK and then AA flopping quads and getting all in on a river that made one of the villains a wheel.

Villain: has 5k. Bad LAG. Has been running hot and raising every hand pre to $20 $50 or $100. Ive seen him get caught bluffing a couple times in medium size pots but nothing too crazy. He's called off 1k in a 3 way all in with bare nut flush draw. Got 1k in pre with AQ and AK. He's really drunk when the hand goes down. He definitely overvalues top pair and doesn't like to fold middle pair.

Villain (UTG+2) raises $20 preflop. Hero calls on the button with QJ. Everyone else folds. ($50)

Flop is 910K

Villain bets $125. Hero calls. ($300)

Turn is 4. Villain bets $600. Hero calls. ($1,500)

River is 10. Villain bets $3,500 putting hero all in. Hero?

Final board: 910K410

Raise somewhere postflop for crying out loud.

^^^^^ this
Range hits Pfr hard and with the cbetting I dont mind the smooth call and see what happens on the turn.
On the turn he 2xPSB I think this is the place to drop the hammer on him ,I am not too sure about raise size as his bet just makes thing awkward a min raise looks suspicious and anything else is a massive.
I like a raise of 1500 but to be honest I dont really know what sizing here is good.
There are going to be a lot of river cards that you a going to be put in a tough spot any club,paired board,J or Q
And you have to know that with villains bet sizing on the turn that he is most likely going to pump the river

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Even drunks can have a hand.

Im paying it off though vs that guy.

Id prefer to ship on the turn though.

I could see V showing up with an overvalued 10 or a busted flush draw here a lot of the time. I'm definitely calling. Also not raising the flop is missing out on tons of value and same with the turn. You have a hand that wants to get stacks in on the flop, but yet you played pot control the entire way through.

Yeah, I like raising the turn for value on draw heavy boards, sounds like this guy could pay you off in that spot. The guy just over bet 3 streets in a row...Does Kx really jam this river and does Tx really over bet the turn? I think a person is more likely to bluff when they are drunk, but he actually needs to bluff quite a bit here for this to be a call. I think this is a fold, and a clear fold if KTo is in his range.

Villain is a bad LAG who is running hot with copious amounts of cocaine and alcohol coursing through his system.

So, yeah, KTo is well in his range.

Raising the turn is the obvious play but I don't mind the smooth call. Villain could easily be bluffing and Hero is setting up a massive river. Though in real time I would likely click it back to $1,500 or possibly even overjam.

As played, this is a call. Too many bluffs or cocaine induced spazs to lay down a disguised straight.

Interesting hand and looking forward to seeing results. I'm a bit tilted I didn't get an invite to this birthday party though.

raise flop to 485

bet turn 675

b/f river 1250

Hahaha. I'll invite you to the next one. I think you posted the best response thus far.

Im kind of surprised that so many guys don't like calling flop and turn vs this villain. I like calling for a few reasons. 1) I want to keep his bluffs in 2) he's 2x ING the pot. I'm already getting a lot of value. 3) his bet sizing is unnatural and could mean different things but I decided it meant that his range was weak and that he wanted me to fold so I kept calling. 4) I have position 5) I really don't want to raise and blown him off any weak one pair hands.

Huge LOL at me "pot controlling the whole way" my main goal was to get stacks in. I just wasnt too worried about getting them in on the flop or turn. I understand that a lot of rivers are scare cards but I'm cool with that. A lot of rivers that I may perceive as bad he may perceive as great cards to bluff on.

Hand is pretty standard pre/flop/turn.

AP, calling but not too thrilled at all.

Calling very deep with the nuts against opponents who are capable of overbetting turns/rivers is fine, IMO.

I also call river, but I hope $3500 isn't a lot of money to you.

Has villain been overbetting a lot? If he has I begrudgingly call like the other posters for the same reasons, but if its his first or second time doing it all night, I can see myself letting it go.

Do we even want to know what happened to the other two guys?

I'm fine with Hero's line if V is triple barreling huge with most of his range. This is exactly what we should do against bad LAGs. Why raise and let him fold air / marginal hands? If we're ok with the prospect of losing $4k, ride the variance train.

Sounds like you're playing in the poker version of the movie Very Bad Things,rack up before someone kills a hooker.

One guy is in the back room doing rails off of a strippers ass and the other guy abruptly stood up in the middle of a hand, announced that "something weird is going on." And jetted out the back door. He's been gone for like 4 hours.

Hahaha. Gold.

How you made it past he turn without raising leads me to believe that you were either

A) eyeing the white film on your cell phone longingly
B) eyeing the topless dealer longingly
C) eyeing the white film on the strippers ass longingly
D) wondering why your cell phone was stripping on the table screaming for you just to call with a gazillion worse hands that would call available to your opponent


No matter what the outcome of the hand you need to rack up and just start shadow banging the nearest inanimate object.

Haha. I don't snort that ****. (I smoke it.. you know.. crack)


I understood the risk of not raising flop or turn but I felt vs this villain and in this hand. Calling the flop/turn and letting him hang himself on the river with his entire range (which was super wide) was the most +ev line to take.

Unbelievable that you didn't at least click-it-back otf.

Holy **** my life is boring!

Oh yeah also.... Fist pump call.

Raise flop or turn! As played- this is gross. But I'm not folding in this spot against this drunken maniac. Way too many hands he can ship here that we beat.

One last thing- can I get an invite to this game?

Did you read my description of the villain?

I was initially screaming 'raise somewhere!' at the monitor but yeah given how much of the heavy lifting the villain is doing and hero's read that villain bets like this with air, calling down and then jamming OTR if we still have the nuts seem like the best plan.

Bro please invite me to this game next time I am extremely jealous. Were the players getting mad that you weren't partaking in the yayo buffet or the straddling? Serious question - is this your friend's birthday party and is villain a friend? I don't fully understand the dynamic of where this game is taking place and your relation to the table/room.

That said, I am calling here expecting to see AQ and AJ the vast majority of the time. The reason you slow played like you did was so you could harpoon this whale for everything on clean runouts.

Mission accomplished. Nice hand and I hope you blasted a fat rail off some stripper's tits after scooping in this monster.

The game/party was thrown for a friend of mine and a handful of us are friends who play poker together. This game runs a few times a year though. Basically, we'll find any excuse we can to get the game going. If we get enough guys who are down to pay the entry fee. ($100-140) There's a $500 min table and a $1,000 min table. Half the 1k table are guys who own businesses and or are drug dealers. (Not scary gangster type guys. Mostly weed dealers) The other half is normal guys wanting to have a good time and a few grinders like me.

I don't know villain but I've played with him a couple times at a different, much more tame home game. He didn't seem to get out of line there but he also wasn't drinking, bucking leaners and having a naked stripper give him a lapdance while he played. It is my understanding that he has very deep pockets.

I witnessed a 3 way aip for 1k each about 2 hours into the game. One guy had k8os, other had J2os, other guy had A10os. The game is nuts and it's hard not to lose your focus or get caught up in the madness but if you stay disciplined they just give their money to you, eventually.

This game happens in Mission BC. Just outside of Vancouver.