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04-17-2014 , 11:24 AM
Was recently playing a $5/$5 cash game at my local casino and got myself into a tough spot.
Hero has $540 Villian $2000(is a very aggressive player especially in position and is to my left)

MP raises to $15 and I flat call with Ace/King in the cut-off. Villian then raises to $60 on the botton, MP folds and i re-raise to $160 and Villian calls. Flop comes queen/nine/four rainbow. With $345 in the pot what's the best move for me?

The reason I flatted pre-flop with ace king was to induce a re-raise from Villian as he done this move numerous times on the botton when a raise is just flatted in front of him.
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04-17-2014 , 11:26 AM
Jam flop
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04-17-2014 , 11:45 AM
Since your call/4 bet looks so weird here I would just 4 bet shove pre over his $60 to avoid this exact situation.
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04-17-2014 , 11:50 AM
I probably just 3bet instead of flatting. As played I think it's ok to just shove this flop.
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04-17-2014 , 11:53 AM
Honestly way to much FPS here man, not really sure what this line is trying to accomplish in a spot like this, You have set yourself up with a SPR of 1.1 OOP up vs a good player, as played you pretty much need to shove (and expect to get called by pretty much any pair.) ...and grab the table/seat change button.

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04-17-2014 , 11:54 AM
As played, it's pretty hard to rep AAs or KKs here.. only thing you're repping is AQ by jamming flop and that seems to be more on his range than yours. Then again, you might get him to lay down 1010s-JJs, and have two overs if he gets stubborn with you. I don't think he's ever folding a Q here tho. I'd jam and hope he didn't hit the Q... if you check he's jamming on you
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04-17-2014 , 01:24 PM
Jamming isn't too bad, but your preflop sizing makes for awkward stacks. I don't mind the play (limp, 4betting), but you need to plan out what you will do if you miss. If your plan was jamming on whiffed flops, then size your 4bet bigger (something like 190-220). If you wanted to disguise your hand, then just flat the 3bet.

As played, with about 380 behind, I probably just bet like 180-200 and if called, give up. He's going to play straight up, ABC poker in a 4bet pot. The only thing a jam accomplish is folding out JJ-88. But even then I don't think a good player is folding a pair, especially if that pair is mid-pair+.
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04-17-2014 , 01:29 PM
Sigh loudly and shove.
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04-18-2014 , 06:05 AM
I feel I mad a terrible decision and bet$170 and he shoved over the top which left another tough decision. With around $880 in the pot it would cost me $210 to call. The only hands I don't have pot odds to call are sets and ace queen and queen king. What's my move call or fold
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04-18-2014 , 07:38 AM
Not the point in the hand to ask for help.
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04-18-2014 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tommyvercetti
Sigh loudly and shove.
Hahahahaha, this!

Sighing is the classic 'oh jeez why does poker hate me' fake tell. Should work 99% of the time here, and he should really only look you up with QQ+.
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04-18-2014 , 08:01 AM
The best move is to not c/4bet pf. As played, I'd put you on 88, TT or JJ. Therefore, you are in the perfect RIO situation. If you shove, you've going to get called by the range that beats you and he folds all his non-queen broadways which you beat. There's almost no value range he folds.

I'd call twice pf and play poker.
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04-18-2014 , 08:32 AM
AP: Imho shove > c/f bad turn. Both are reasonable i guess.
C/c would not be good.
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04-18-2014 , 09:17 AM
Grunching.


I like your flat and then reraise with this hand. If you have a player behind you that is constantly raising light, this is exactly how you want to trap them. You might have considered to making it 170 or 175 to set up a shove on the flop.


The key to this hand is what range is V flatting your bet to 160 with. Is he an action monkey that will play any suited connector? or would he flat QQ+ here to trap you?

If you shove the flop, the only hands in his range that he snap calls with on the flop are 99, QQ, KK, and AA. AQ maybe. and any Qx hand is going to be a hard one to call.

I would shove this. I think it is much less likely that he trapped us or flopped a monster based on his reraising frequency on the button. He seems pretty splashy.
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04-18-2014 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by trev1982
I feel I mad a terrible decision and bet$170 and he shoved over the top which left another tough decision. With around $880 in the pot it would cost me $210 to call. The only hands I don't have pot odds to call are sets and ace queen and queen king. What's my move call or fold
call for metagame purposes and hope that he has QJ or JT
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