Our Game just started 20 minutes ago, but there has been some action so far.

History: I am known in the room as a Tag and villain respects me. So far I outplayed him in most spots. He knows that I can 3bet light (probably not in this exact spot, but we played a 3bet pot 7days ago, where I showed JTo and won with top pair. After raising his donk bet on a J43ss board. And checking it down after turn and river brick. Other than that I just believe he thinks I play good and will be able to play close to perfect.

Reads on villain: end 20s Arab dude with a hideous cheap-style. limps small PP in EP. 3bets AA OOP to amounts that discount set mining (e.g. To 260 after an open and a call when he is 1800eff with the open raiser). I think he doesn't want to get involved with me to much, but I heard he lost a giant stack yesterday after I left (>3k in a 5/5 game). I am unsure about his range here. I guess it's all the obvious stuff along with some rather thin hands like T9+ ..

Reads on hero: solid winner in this room. Can bluff and get creative but will mostly keep it simple and exploit the fishy live play of some others. I play Tag and he knows this.

OTTH 10 players // 600eff

Villain opens 20 UTG+2
Hero 3bets 55 (low jack .. That seat in front of the Co)
Folds to villain
Villain calls after 10 seconds (seemed to think about folding)

Flop J♣️93♣️ (115$)

Villain checks
Hero bets 70
Villain thinks for 15 seconds and raises to 170 (375$ behind)

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What would you do here? My reads are limited on him for spots like these, because the dynamics in my game mostly resolve about exploiting the whales and not playing technically sound poker vs other thinking players.



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He would never be thinking about folding JJ or 99. If he autocalls all pps preflop, which a lot of Vs do, it's hard for him to have 33 in this spot. Only other value combo is J9s. If he's playing J9s he's presumably playing QTs and other suited broadways. His most likely holding by far on this flop is a draw with between 9 and 14 outs. I'm fine jamming it in here. I think it's better than calling then gii on a safe turn because you could level yourself into folding on an 8h turn when all he made was a middling pair with his 8Tcc. It makes our hand pretty face up, but I just make a big jam here.

Happily jam

Interesting. I actually was leaning towards a fold giving him mostly a range of QTcc (still a bit weird to raise it to this amount imo) or JJ,99 sets. T8cc is unlikely due to pre but obviously could be the case.

Raising QQ here .. IDK. Raising with anything less than a combodraw. Maybe, but it`s a long shot.

I decided to call and reevaluate on the turn.


Flop J♣️95/5 3bet Pot with KK IP vs reg3♣️ (115$)

Villain checks
Hero bets 70
Villain thinks for 15 seconds and raises to 170 (375$ behind)
Hero calls

Turn J935 (440$)

Villain checks rather quickly
Hero (375 eff)

What would you do?

Sizing bad pre, $75.

Does V 4b KK-JJ pre?

Hero have Kc?

Unlikely V opened QTs from EP.

Probably fold flop. Only semibluffs V can have are AcKc, AcQc, AcTc.

As played, check back turn.

I doubt he 4bets anything besides AA. I don`t have Kc.

I made it 55 to maybe get an overcall from a loose-passive player (that`s not out of question in my game) with making it way bigger we are only targeting the reg.

I agree that the sizing is on the small side. I could argue that it leaves more rope to 3bet with a wider range to isolate him in certain spots, but yeah 70ish would have been better.

I wonder about the check back turn .. Is he really checking a flush here, that is not the nut flush? Why is he giving us a free card, when we are kind of very likely holding a hand with the Ac, Kc or Qc.

I thought about checking it down now or jamming turn because I felt it would be weird for him to check to me with QcTc .. But idk.

You shouldnt need our help if you play close to perfect. If you meant that you dont play close to perfect but villain only thinks you do, then what do you think a perfect play would be once villain check raises you?

Are you having a bad day?

I hope you know very well what I meant. If you are having the better of another player for most of the time (due to cards, patience luck and some skill) .. They obviously will think that you won't make a big mistake. But wait for it. I maybe did in this very hand.

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And I hope as well that you know that call, shove abs fold are very close EV-wise. Depending on the range that we give villain.

I think it would be perfect in this hand to fold it OTF and stay away from reg vs reg situations, because winning is fine in those but losing some high variance pots while swimming with the whales can be quite tilting (at least for me) ..




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Not having a bad day at all. Your statement about him thinking you playing perfectly doesnt make sense. Nobody plays perfectly. Its not possible to play perfectly unless you can see everyones cards. Way too many variables. If this guy really thinks you play perfectly, which I seriously doubt, then hes a fool.

Good to hear that! I agree that the Statement Sounds Kind of ridiculous, I meant to say that he won't think that I will make a big mistake and that he thinks I am one of the two better players at this table.

Playing perfect in my game is actually bad, if we talk about playing balanced, unexploitable poker. But we both know that in deep stack live poker playing "close to perfect" could be losely defined as ABC poker + being able to pick up on tendencies of fishy players to maximise value when we most likely have then crushed.

I obviously don't play perfect, but all this villain saw was technically sound winning poker by me and getting him in spots where my light vbets and inducing was correct in the end.

What do you think about the spot I am in here?

Best wishes


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Yeah, if you're V. Some people play more than 2% of hands from EP.

with a psb left, Jam this flop is super standard.

I would have shoved the flop. We should really only be behind JJ (would he raise a set on flop?) and maybe a slow-played AA. Lots of draws and combo draws he could be raising with.

As played, check back turn and evaluate his reaction to river.

$70 pre.

100ish BBs.
3-bet pot.
Jack high flop with a flush draw.
Hero has KK.
V is not a nit/OMC/nut peddler.

You should be happy to play for stacks. 3! jam flop.

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