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Originally Posted by 6bet me
it's not exploitable if you're always right when you do it. hehe
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
RE results: exactly what i said from the beginning-this is K10 a scary high percentage of the time and its by no means a slam dunk call. I also notice its only me and maybe 2 other posters who would seriously consider folding this. Not that it is a surprise, but still worth mentioning.
Thats where the magic lies in livepoker: being able to profile certain types of villains so damn accurate like this, so you literally can narrow their range down to one hand when they take a spesific line with spesific sizing.
Being able to to do that and be correct a huge percentage of the time requires high level human skills as well (being able to understand your villains mindset and their feelings towards poker), not just technical stuff.
yup. the truth is, folding here and being certain about it is highly advanced, and the reason is, it requires a deep understanding of live villains and their psychologies. the fact that she didn't repop it pre makes it easier to parse out JJ/QQ from KT, as does the fact that there are more combos of KT.
so those are two indicators. but the most interesting indicator is the human one, like you point out Petrucci.
above all else, she overbet shoves turn with the straight here and not necessarily with sets because what villains like this are primarily trying to achieve is to make it so that when the decision was made (meaning when they put all the money in), there was no way they could be wrong. it prevents them from being in the spot that they absolutely dread which is having to decide between two ****ty choices (shove or check) if a scare card comes. KT is vulnerable to both the flush and any board-pairing river. this gives her a HUGE incentive to just make her decision easy and get it all in on the turn. it solves all her problems. she's not interested in extracting max value. villains like this play based on a pain-avoidance strategy in spots like this.
additionally, she would be reluctant to do the same thing with JJ/QQ because they are 3rd and 4th from the nuts. so she worries about shoving into the nuts. holding the nuts, she has no such concerns. easy decision for her.
this situation is similar to spots where you can correctly fold KK preflop. there are ways to parse out KK from AA, and they're completely human/villain profiling things. this is why i play live and will never play online