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5/10 TT vs whale on a heater 5/10 TT vs whale on a heater

05-07-2021 , 06:11 PM
5/10 1K effective.

CO tag reg to 30.
BTN whale on a heater flats.
Hero SB TTcd to 140.
Bb folds
Co calls
BTN calls
3 ways
(430) flop J43scc
Hero bets 140.
Fold.
BTN calls.
(710) turn Jh
Hero? (660 behind...)
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05-07-2021 , 07:17 PM
I would probably check this on the turn. This will allow you to bluff catch his floats and also allow you to value bet rivers if villan checks behind targeting his Ace highs and PP's lower than yours. Merits of betting would be to deny equity to hands such as flush draws/overs but you hold the 10c which eliminates combos of potential draws villan has. Also if you jam turn, you rarely will be called by worse.
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05-07-2021 , 07:26 PM
Betting again, readless vs a whale maybe just shove?
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05-07-2021 , 07:53 PM
What do you know about the whale? How aggressive is he? Would he bet or trap with a jack? If you shove does he call with club draws? Doe he have any bluffs if you check? Both check and shove could be best here, it isn't likely a smaller bet is worth it against a whale.
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05-07-2021 , 08:06 PM
Is the Medium-High Stakes forum broken or does this game play like a Low Stakes Game?
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05-07-2021 , 10:05 PM
Hero checks?
BTN bets 250.
Hero?
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05-07-2021 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
What do you know about the whale? How aggressive is he? Would he bet or trap with a jack? If you shove does he call with club draws? Doe he have any bluffs if you check? Both check and shove could be best here, it isn't likely a smaller bet is worth it against a whale.


Yeah he’s pretty LAG but it’s hard to tell since he’s been on a heater and kinda running me over.

He plays a lot of speculative hands pre and was bombing when he gets there.

He has an overall tendency to put too much money in with too weak of hands imo

But I don’t know how he would play his flush draws facing a check
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05-07-2021 , 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hyperknit
Hero checks?
BTN bets 250.
Hero?
Given the check and $250 bet. I think this is a clear all in.
If he is on a flush draw or straight draw you make him pay
to draw. If he is stone cold bluffing i don't think he will bluff
river given there is only about 1/3 pot bet left.
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05-08-2021 , 12:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker_Tiger
Given the check and $250 bet. I think this is a clear all in.
If he is on a flush draw or straight draw you make him pay
to draw. If he is stone cold bluffing i don't think he will bluff
river given there is only about 1/3 pot bet left.
+1

also like a check on the turn because it's pretty polar at that point and we're never folding so may as well let him rep the jack with a bluff than only play the jack with a call

after he raises we have no choice but to jam given spr
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05-08-2021 , 08:15 AM
you have 28% of the effective stack in the pot already. While V could have a jack, he could have a bunch of draws and is betting small on the turn to set his own price.

All in. There is no reason for calling. V won't call if he misses his draw and will go all in if he hits.
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05-08-2021 , 11:12 AM
I would go way bigger pre and check the flop. As played, I would shove. We're going to be doing a decent amount of value owning ourselves versus Jx, but with his draws and worse pairs I just like shoving.
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05-08-2021 , 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hyperknit
Hero checks?
BTN bets 250.
Hero?
Didn't see this, yeah I would shove
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05-08-2021 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
I would go way bigger pre and check the flop. As played, I would shove. We're going to be doing a decent amount of value owning ourselves versus Jx, but with his draws and worse pairs I just like shoving.
On board with this. As a kind of defaultline, this would be my choice as well. Getting this checked through on the turn from the whale will bring in enough bad rivercards that i believe that is a strong argument for doing our own betting here.

If he is the kind of whale to autoshoot when he gets checked too/see weakness, that would be what i prefer to do.

Either way i am stacking off here. If the whale have a Jx combo, nice hand sir- chips!
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05-08-2021 , 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hyperknit
Hero checks?
BTN bets 250.
Hero?
Fold or shove. This sort of situation is really a live read situation. Given your description I strongly favor a shove. You describe villain as tending to bet big when he has it so the smallish bet is more likely a draw.
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05-08-2021 , 09:20 PM
I XR all in and villain tank called off with 88
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05-16-2021 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
On board with this. As a kind of defaultline, this would be my choice as well. Getting this checked through on the turn from the whale will bring in enough bad rivercards that i believe that is a strong argument for doing our own betting here.

If he is the kind of whale to autoshoot when he gets checked too/see weakness, that would be what i prefer to do.

Either way i am stacking off here. If the whale have a Jx combo, nice hand sir- chips!
+1

The second J on the turn makes it less likely he's holding one; will rule out QQ+/AK/AQ for obvious pre- line actions.

I think check jamming is optimal after he bets - make him pay for any draw, including pair draws to overs and get max value for any of his PPs that you beat since he might think you wiff'd with ace-face high.

Check folding is just giving away money, IMO.

Check calling and then evaling brick river leaves the remaining ~$350 in your stack potentially unrewarded if it goes check-check or bet-fold. Shoving on turn is the same as crying call on river if it goes check-bet as you'll be getting just under 4:1 and you don't have to agonize anything by jamming.


EDIT 1:
Quote:
Originally Posted by hyperknit
I XR all in and villain tank called off with 88
Didn't see this info until after I had uploaded my response.

Glad it fits my description.

Last edited by sam7595; 05-16-2021 at 01:56 AM.
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05-17-2021 , 08:26 AM
I like the turn x/r rather than lead jamming. Villain is likely to bet most of his one pairs for equity denial/value against what looks like overs that are giving up. ss floats, flush and straight draws are likely to bluff for the same reason.
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