Villain - A middle age man whom I had some history with. This is how I view the villain, recalling some of the more interesting hands I have seen him play.

Actual Hand:

In this hand, this villain (sb) had a 120bb stack, an insignificant BB had a 100bb stack and I cover everyone.

I raised JJ UTG to $35, villain called at sb and BB completes.

Flop (~$110) : T33 rainbow. Everyone check and I cbet $75, SB called and BB folds.

Turn ($~300): 2, still rainbow board. SB checks and I cbet $250 and he min raised to $500 . I tanked called.

River: X. He bets $10 (yes... a ticklish $10!) and I called.

My question is, what should my correct play be at turn?

1) Fold?
2) Call?

Min turn raises are usually something to be feared, not sure if play starts getting wonky at 5/10 though.

That said, folding turn is criminal. There are two combos of suited A3s, and one quad combo.

Flat turn is fine as we want to keep the spazz factor in...which, if it's not one of the above 3 combos, it's spazz.

When he bets $10 otr I'm jamming for value.

This is 77-99 alot of the time. Or some bs 10. If dude seriously just induced with nuts and a $10 bet then super LOL.

Jam that river son.

Why jam river if it's 88/99/Tx? Most of those hands would probably fold no? If that's our read then we should put in a small raise, knowing we have to fold if he jams back.

I think calling turn is good. There's too much Tx that he could be overplaying to fold. I'd call, call the river, and expect to lose to TT/A3/22 more than I win.

3. Raise all in vs a villain who never folds AT here?

It would also be helpful to have some idea of his range after preflop and flop as played. For example, if villain can never have a 3 here, flatting river is pretty bad if the card was a blank.

I forgot to include in my earlier post that he might see me as an aggro bluffer.

He has seen me bluff big time b4 in this hand.

A bluff the the villain seen me made:

Maybe this hand history might be the reason why he bet so smallish at river? TO induce a bluff?

I think it is a call. It is an extremely loose defend for him to have a 3 in the SB and call a 3.5x UTG raise when there are no other callers, giving him no odds. The only hands I can see him doing this with are a3s and 33. There is only one combination of 33 and 2 of a3s so his range is rarely a 3. He could have 22 of course, it would be an ok call on the flop I think, and standard c/r on turn. I assume he is typical in that he would 3bet aa/kk/qq most of the time and might play 99/88 like this. The monsters are a small part of his range. Most likely he has 10 with another broadway card. (42 combinations) You've said he overvalues TPGK type hands, this seems a classic example of that.

HOWEVER, min raises from bad players do useually signify strength and fish can show up with some weird hands, so I would not berate you for folding. My thinking would be that you are calling $250 to win $1050. If this was the river it would be a snap call, he has a ten/88/99/77/bluff a quarter of the time here easy. What I would be worrying about is him firing again on the river. The reverse implied odds of seeing a showdown are what scare me here but i think getting 4/1 and knowing he would overvalue a ten here, combined with min raises not always meaning strength/him thinking ace 10 is the nuts here would make this a call. When he bets ten on the river I breath a sigh of relief.

Slight note on river play. Should you raise here? Because assuming he NEVER min bets a 3/22 etc is he calling you with a lot of his 10s? If so you should raise river. That's not the question so I won't say much about it but food for thought.

Yeah.... I was happy he bets only $10 at river. I chose to call because that min bet could be his plan to induce a reraise from me given our history.

Anyway, he shows A3 offsuit and took down the pot.... But really...

How should I handle this kind of guy? Maybe it is variance but this is the second time I lose a relatively big pot to him (The other significant one is the straight vs flush hand that I lost).

Our responses are only as good as your read here with regards to his preflop call and turn min raise.

if Tx is the nuts to him then its difficult to fold turn. but his over valuing of tp type hands isn't as applicable on this board which would make me more suspicious.

Based on your description, there is no way on God's green earth you can ever fold an overpair to a villain who overvalues top pair and simultaneously thinks you bluff too much.

If anything, given your read/description you should be re-raising turn.

Or put another way. If V has KT or AT or 99 or 88 and you re-raise turn is V going to call you?

If the answer is yes, you need to be raising, if the answer is no, then you can call and then get some value on river.

But it basically just looks like V got lucky and flopped gin and then decided to get cutesy on the river. FWIW, I would have just called this river. The $10 "single chip" bet is usually a FPS play that tries to induce raises when someone has the near nuts. It works surprising well and I do it all the time vs aggro players.

Villain would have gotten every last chip from me. How often do you see inducing bets and how often are they tiny as this dgi? What I mean is, say it were $100. Do we assume that's a blocker and raise? (I'm just starting to transition to 2/5, don't see too many induces or blockers at 1/2 obv)

I guess what I'm asking is where is the line between inducing and blocker.

Also OP, please don't post results so quick. I would have liked to argue to death against dgi and then been completely wrong.

I think the turn is a Jam and not a call with given the villain description.

I would never fold the turn against this villain for the obvious reasons.

I would always just call the river. Villain put $500 in on the turn and now leads for $10 on the river? More often then not this is to induce a raise and not a blocking bet w/ like QTs or something.

I think calling two streets is best no matter how weak it seems.

I think you just play him like the fish he is. Fish will suck out on people more than good players will because they get it in bad more. Calling OOP with a3 off to a utg 3.5x raise is CRIMINAL. accept he and others will have hands occasionally, but you played it all fine. no way you can put him on a 3 until the turn and even then I still believe it's no more than 25% of his range making the call correct, especially with this werid min bet induce thing.

Which i duno how i feel about really, well done for being smart enough to check behind, I think I would have raised it then punched myself in the face when he shipped.

You can find a fold on the turn, but I don't think calling is a leak, over the long run i still call this spot.

Meh shove turn not river if you want to shove. His hand range and calling range really are unchanged.

Before you gave the information that villain probably sees you as bluffy, I would have said to fold turn. He has way more 3x combos than just A3s because his preflop range is probably pretty wide, and even if he overvalues TP and doesn't like to fold it, that doesn't mean he takes a c/c, c/minraise line with it. That looks super strong.

But if you know he views you as bluffy, there's no way you can fold. He could be making a play with air in that case or "putting you to the test" with Tx, even if that doesn't make any logical sense. So with that information, I play the hand the same way you did.

Yeah I agree. If TP was a K and you had AA then I like a turn flat, because if he happens to have air he might fire again OTR, and even though it's unlikely he might make some hero fold with TP when you 3-bet him on the turn, whereas when he bets river he commits himself and always stacks off (you couldn't have predicted the $10 river bet). But as TP is a T, you don't want an overcard to hit that will scare him off, so shove turn is better than call turn shove river. This is if your intention is to make sure you get AI in this hand, which is not my preference.

+1
Makes alot of sense...