[QUOTE=ChaosInEquilibrium;57227279][QUOTE=KT ART;57227152]
he has 100% of the KQ/KJ/QJ off suits here, I'm blocking AA and QQ, i think calling with AQ is better than calling with 77, if we had 77 we happily pitch it maybe even pre, or we just take a flop and not 3 bet at all, so i'm super capped here, i don't even really have any pairs to target, no draws either
[/QUOTE ]
The above is incongruous with your statement that he’s 4! a 6-7% range. A 6-7% 4! range consists of JJ+, AK, AQs, suited wheel aces, mix of AJs/ATs. If he’s a good online player he’s never 4!ing any offsuit hands except AKo in a vacuum.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KT ART
he capped his range OTF too, this is a juicy flop to get value off of, why so much?
[/QUOTE ]
I disagree that he capped his range on the flop. You basically never have any sets except for TT. Meanwhile he has way more over pairs than you do. So he has a significant range advantage in this board. I think his advantage is so significant that he gets to bet his entire range for two sizings (one big, 66-80% size, and one small, 25-33% size). He can use his large sizing with AA and A5s/A4s (maybe also AK as a bluff, trying to get you off a chop. I would guess he prefers to use his small sizing with KK-JJ to put your Ace highs in a tough spots.
If you always 5bet with JJ+ you are going to get put in a lot of trouble on boards like this because your range is going to be primarily unpaired Ace highs, and Villain can bet relentlessly with a hand as weak as ATs. I honestly think if you’re going to have a flatting range to his 4bet you need to include QQ/JJ very often as a flat, and possibly trap occasionally with AA.
yeah i totally agree with this, i think even weaker, like QT + all his overpairs, but the fact that villain doesn't have a continuing range that isn't a 4bet makes it much better to always raise JJ+ but have balance. I just can't think of many other hands to balance, so flatting JJ+ some of the time is mandatory if you flat AQs some of the time
but i don't ever want to flat against villain here with the top of my range, i'd rather have a hand for hand range to balance so i will have to do some homework
as for the hand not necessarily poorly played by me but not optimum. I don't want to flat JJ+ here ever so i have to have reasonable hands in my range like AQs to always 5 bet and pick a few other combos....
nh, sir