table is 7 handed, villain in this hand has around 5K but seems loose. He's been straddling and has been calling light out of the straddle. I opened with TT first to act to 100, one MP caller, villain called from the straddle to close the action

(the straddle here is 25)

flop 976 all diamonds, i check, MP bets 100, call, call...Kd on the turn, check, check check, Ac on river, v leads for 300, i fold, MP calls, Qd6h was his hand

A very solid, tricky pro (3Kish) opens to 30 from HJ, villain calls on CO, weak/tight OMC playing with 700 calls the button, we (3200) wake up with AA and raise to 145

3 calls

pot (590) 4 players

A72

Hero bets 200, fold, call, fold

Pot (990) heads up

J

check, bet 500, tank call

pot (1990) heads up

2

loose players, nuts on the river, bomb. 1650.

grunch: bigger pre, $145 would be fine with no flatters but with flatters I wanna go $180.
The flop I would check a good % of the time, we're gonna want to check this 4 ways with some hands that we still want to show down, and we block most of the hands that can call a bet.

Given villains willingness to bet the 1 card second nuts in a previous hand, I'm not worried about him checking back many hands that can call a bet, so I would just check here and jam over a bet

You're just trying to find the best way to fish stomp,

Continuing on that theme, you can now check, bet a little, or bet a lot, and all are going to be acceptable on some level. Thing is, his range should be a little stronger than usual here, so I think there is a lot more to being exploitable against someone that isn't going to exploit you -- bet something, mostly for the benefits of ensuring the pot is bigger and also presenting the spot w 3 options instead of 2. There is also a big difference between him betting and getting raised (and then having to call) and him facing a bet (that he may choose to raise more often).

Also, ck-tank is bad. ckc within his tempo. Yeah little more pre. I don't like checking flop in this setup often at all. It's certainly going to be solver approved and is good poker strat, but too pressure is created by putting out 150-200.. often going to get HU w the spot.

Imo he only gets to the river with this line with AJ, 77, 22, diamonds, and bluffs. I think all of the made hands bet, so I’m x/gii

Maybe he has some AX that checks OTR but I don’t think it’s enough to make betting better than checking.

@Amanaplan why do you say check-tank is bad?

It's a little thing that I think is pretty big. Hero knows he's checking, the tank can diffuse impulsive actions by an IP spot on a nut changing card. No evidence for this, but the times V has T7, he is more likely to bet 500 if hero checks in tempo than facing a tank... Maybe nonsense, but I don't think so. For all the strategy stuff we blab about here, there is so much in-game/off-table that matters mostly more than everyday lines/sizing.

I think we can size up pre. I usually go 4-5x OOP against just one player. Vs 3, 6-7x could work. You do want some calls, so I dunno, maybe $170 seems decent.

I like the flop. Turn, I think I'd keep betting, at least sometimes. If the A wasn't a diamond, I'd be more concerned about the flush coming in. I think by betting, we're continuing to extract from worse sets, TP, PP with a diamond in them and maybe other random diamonds, like if he floats the flop downbet with KQo with a diamond (or KTo/QTo). Based on the Q6 hand, he might have some of those. Also, this guy might have some random AXo so now those weak kicker with a diamond have more reason to call a 2nd bet.

I'd probably just donk jam river here. All his TP hands x back for sure and who knows how much he'd bet a flush, or maybe even bet fold one for. I was in a very similar spot recently. Dude knew I boated up, but still called like a 1.7k donk bet into a 1.2k pot with the 2nd flush.

you don't mention whether we're SB or BB here, which does matter a little, because our 3bet range in the bb should be stronger, but...either way, I'm going a lot bigger this deep. 180-200

4 way I'm betting flop and I think sizing is fine

river, I'm betting 100%. depending on our read on villain and if we think he's got a river jam in him over the top of a small lead.

so if he's loose passive, I'm betting 75% of pot. If he's loose aggressive. I'm betting 30% and hoping he jams

yeah i think i underbet this pre flop a little but honestly, the pro at the table is going to dictate the calling action here and he's definitely paying attention to my sizing, if it's too rich for his blood, he has no problem folding, which could produce a cascade of folds

villain in the hand showed up with Q6o to a 4x raise so i really don't like pricing that range out pre and OMC has a short stack and always has his finger next to the fold button, so yea i wanted to size up but didn't want to lose my audience

we are on the bb, i def like sizing it up a little bit more from the sb

i considered checking the flop. In fact, we are basically only 40% to win the pot pre-flop, and we only improve on the flop 10% of the time, it's possible we should check almost every flop including this one, lots of RIO here...just reminds me that we don't become winning players with AA....a lot of sessions i've done well and thought i didn't even need AA lol...it's like candy, tastes great but the diabetes may kill you

anyway, i. was thinking at the time this is the most standard c/r river ever...villain has a flush here 100% of the time and bets the river 100% of the time, i just didn't expect him to bet just 400

jam quick

pot is 2300 and we have about 2350 behind....it's a 1950 raise on top of the 2700 pot.

I think a shove actually looks weaker than a smaller raise, so let's shove. And do it quickly with a hand signal.

Standard x/jam on the river.

His calling range should be totally inelastic and going smaller looks stronger imo. He may have been sizing small with AJ but that's probably folding to any size raise. Target flushes and every whales leak of getting too attached to absolute strength hands.

If you jammed and he folded a flush that really sucks but the vast majority of the time whales don't make that fold

Edit: I'd go 150 or 160 pre but your size is fine

That makes a lot of sense actually, thanks for elaborating.

yeah i screwed this one up actually i just raised to 1200 and villain called my exact hand as he was putting the chips in. whales don't fold

he said he had 4d5d which is like the worst hand he could have