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01-28-2016 , 05:53 PM
Also I agree that just opening first to act is better than l/rr pre-
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01-28-2016 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mikko
Deep stack poker is the nuts!!!!

Got no help for you. No way in hell I am calling river, unless guy is complete maniac. (Don't get there in thus manner)
This, though without further reads I fold the river, most likely🤔
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01-28-2016 , 07:37 PM
300 bb. Analysis seems right, but let's not ignore the straddle.
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01-28-2016 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kimoser22
This, though without further reads I fold the river, most likely🤔

Yeah but can you really fold a J river getting 5:1? If you were ahead on the turn you still are. You need to be good about 1 in 6 times here. This river card and this bet shouldn't change our decision much if we thought it was correct ott. I wouldn't have gotten to river like this either but I cannot see calling turn and folding river.
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01-28-2016 , 11:39 PM
The limp/reraise from the SB with AA is pretty 1972. That's what needs the biggest line check.
The hand just isn't played great. Called min raise on the flop.

Call a value bet on the turn with possibly the most info being given on what he is leaving behind.

He is shoving the river 1600 into 9000+ And you're going to "have" to call.
Looks like V was pretty transparent with his bet chunking. He wanted to play for stacks more than you did!
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01-29-2016 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
Yeah but can you really fold a J river getting 5:1? If you were ahead on the turn you still are. You need to be good about 1 in 6 times here. This river card and this bet shouldn't change our decision much if we thought it was correct ott. I wouldn't have gotten to river like this either but I cannot see calling turn and folding river.
Yeah that's my bad for not paying attention to stacks, thought he had at least 1-2 PSB (thought he had more) on the river...
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01-29-2016 , 01:04 AM
Holy crap your buddy isn't a reg is he? I didn't know 5/10 players were this horrible. Kinda makes me happy and gives me hope. Open shove woulda been more +EV than the way he played it.
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01-29-2016 , 01:02 PM
What did V have???
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01-29-2016 , 01:12 PM
V had KK obv
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01-29-2016 , 02:10 PM
Whatever V had he's ******ed for raising a K73r flop facing that sizing.
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01-29-2016 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
Whatever V had he's ******ed for raising a K73r flop facing that sizing.
meh

look how OP described him, you can't be bluffing if you're calling so I can see where V is coming from

would be funny as hell if AA was good too
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01-29-2016 , 02:56 PM
Obv chop.
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01-29-2016 , 05:20 PM
V shows 54 spades hero scoops 10k pot EASY
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01-29-2016 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by flopturntree
V shows 54 spades hero scoops 10k pot EASY
Lol!! Please let this be true.
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01-29-2016 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold
Hand played by a buddy and interested in a line check on every street...
Is this one of those things where a guy walks in to the Dr.'s office telling the doc that he has a buddy that is having a rash south of the border? Lol
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01-29-2016 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dwannabe
Is this one of those things where a guy walks in to the Dr.'s office telling the doc that he has a buddy that is having a rash south of the border? Lol

That's twice tonight I literally lol in public.
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01-29-2016 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
That's twice tonight I literally lol in public.
Lay off the hooch
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01-29-2016 , 11:04 PM
The way hero described Villain I'm not surprised he went to the river. Are you always going to be a pussy and get owned by aggros? **** it sometimes role with your gut. If he flips over kings which is doubtful then oh well. Im not folding on a dry ass board like that just because we are deep. Especially an aggro villain. Might as well rack your chips and leave if you are not going to do battle. I'm sure all the Dbag 2+2 regs will berate me but idk give a ****.
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01-30-2016 , 01:16 PM
BTN doesn't give you aces.

LOL @ ppl thinking l/rr always telegraphs AA. It sure as hell doesn't mean AA 100% of the time, but you can certainly use that perception to your advantage, I suppose.

If villain is "ultra aggressive" on the BTN, you guys really think he's just going to flat a 3-bet with KK hoping to fluke a set? I mean, he could and completely own our hero here, but based on his image, it's highly unlikely.

We have no info on hands hero has shown down and/or how villain perceives hero, so we have no baseline from which to determine if there's a leveling war going on. Your bet flop-check turn line looks like a compulsory c-bet that **** its pants and shut down HARD OTT. Hero would have to bet flop the same way if he had JJ/QQ/AQ, and if villain is at least a level 3 thinker, he would know this.

What would villain expect hero to check-call the turn with and basically commit himself to calling the river bet (regardless of the card), and what's hero communicating to villain by doing this? "I have AK?" Seems like villain is trying to make it look like he's beating AK by betting the turn, but doesn't actually beat it. In fact, I think villain actually has AK and puts hero on QQ.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Last edited by Hardball47; 01-30-2016 at 01:35 PM.
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01-30-2016 , 10:02 PM
Okay all said and done...

RESULTS: Hero calls river and V flips over KJo for rivered two pair
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01-30-2016 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Apparently 5/10 Heros and villains play exactly like 1/2 Heros and villains. That's good to know...
Fixed my own post
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01-30-2016 , 11:13 PM
Being a bit results oriented, shouldnt H jam turn? If youve committed to calling the turn and there is only $1600more behind, whats the point of flatting and potentially leaving $1600 on the table? You are always stacking off with worse when behind, why not get full value when you are actually ahead?
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01-30-2016 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
Yeah but can you really fold a J river getting 5:1? If you were ahead on the turn you still are. You need to be good about 1 in 6 times here. This river card and this bet shouldn't change our decision much if we thought it was correct ott. I wouldn't have gotten to river like this either but I cannot see calling turn and folding river.

Lol me.
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01-31-2016 , 12:13 AM
According to Hero, V was playing very aggressively, so he didn't want to shove at any point and lose him on such a dry board. He also thought V would fold his bluffs (and even Kx) to a turn shove.

V told him later that he was down $6k from another table so was kinda on tilt.
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01-31-2016 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
LOL @ ppl thinking l/rr always telegraphs AA.
I honestly can't remember a time when it wasn't, except from a short stack.
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