6 handed and I've raised every button so far to villians Big blind, which I believe is 3 straight orbits. I have won none of them, declined to cbet in 2 boards and gave up on turn in third

He has been playing loose however as he has defended in all 3 spots and played a few more pots. He had 3k when I got to table but dropped half of it in top pair top kicker vs set in 3b pot cooler spot

I raise CO to 40 with 99 V calls button, new guy in SB just bought for 1k calls bb folds

678r flop

I bet 80 both players call

Turn is J completes rainbow

Sb checks, I check, V bets 250, SB folds, I call

I'm interested in our plans for the river

The time to figure that out is before you call the turn bet. I would consider betting a T or 5 to like 300. Other cards I think necessitate a check. If you plan on folding to a lot of bets I think that means the turn call was a mistake. So check/call mostly. If you catch a bad river or he makes a strong bet then I guess fold is OK.

Thought this hand was pretty interesting.

I think villians value range was pretty much restricted to 9T, which I block and which he may have raised flop with anyway. Don't see many Jx in his range. My plan was to check any river and decide.

River 8, hero checks, villian shoves, hero?

I don't usually play 5/10 so take my opinions with a grain of salt

But I feel like when he takes this line on this particular board texture, he has a lot more value hands than bluffs

When he calls flop, what type of hands would he be calling with that he would turn into a bluff besides complete airballs (kind of unlikely that he would take this line with total air)...there are no flush draws possible, and the only kind of hand he could have and be bluffing turn with is like A5 suited, 56, K9 type of hands...you block two 9's so that lowers the likelihood even more

I fold river

Tough spot... as played I'm folding. The most important thing is IMO you're too narrow on Villain's value range OTT once you check. I would bet virtually every hand I flatted the flop with (1-pair, 2-pair draws, sets, 9T, floats, etc.) in villain's spot. Particularly based on what you describe recent action, which is a willingness to fold the flop/turn on recent hands.

Now, given what I'm describing above -- a villain definitely turns over air here a decent amount, and I'd also concede that most villains aren't jamming JX for value often, or turning 3rd/4th pair into a bluff, so the river jam polarizes him a lot. But remember you're blocking two 9s so less of the "standard" draws for 678 are in his range.

This line fits a lot of strong hands imo, 8X, 9T, even some 66/77/88. Flat flop in position is fine on a rainbow flop with any of those hands, and you're likely to bet turn when checked to with all of those hands, and you're likely to bet all of those on river, since they're all beating the range of hands you're repping by c-bet, c/c, c/?.

P.S. I think you can just bet turn with the intention of calling raises. I'm assuming you had him covered, its 150bb. If you bet 250 here on turn, and he flats again, and the 8 turns up, and you check... his river barrel won't be 1.13k often imo. You would probably face a ~550 bet which is a slightly easier call than what you're describing (you have to be right half as often).

I would rather continue on the Turn.

AP calling Turn is fine based on recent history and draws.

I'm willing to c/c a lot of Rivers and may not lead out if 5/T hits depending on how V reacts to us actually seeing a River. I don't think V calls a stop-n-go play here if the 4th straight card hits board and he doesn't have equal. GL

He is repping an extremely thin value range with his line. The 8 is the only card in his value range but i block 89. 78 raises the flop for sure. I'm sure v is capable of playing k8o this way but if so more power to him

The board is rainbow, so there are only a couple suites 8x is available to him. I prob only lose to two combos of A8s

Pocket pairs better than this raise pre. Sets raise the flop.

Hero calls. Thoughts?

You are right that you block a lot of his vale hands but you also block a lot of his bluff hands. This is a soul read spot where he value range is basically AA, JJ, 88, 910, 89, 79. His bluff range is 9x, floats. Pretty thin either way.

P.S. I think you can just bet turn with the intention of calling raises. I'm assuming you had him covered, its 150bb. If you bet 250 here on turn, and he flats again, and the 8 turns up, and you check... his river barrel won't be 1.13k often imo. You would probably face a ~550 bet which is a slightly easier call than what you're describing (you have to be right half as often).[/QUOTE]

I thought about this but i put villian in a pure float and here is why: if he has a strong hand otf, he raises. It's just a natural thing to want your money back as fast as possible after you've been coolered. He had AKs, other guy had JJ on AJx. I put him in air when he flats the flop, But I think checking the turn is natural, the SB is still in the hand and his range should play well vs my hand OTT. The reason i checked was because i think im beat by sb continue range

So once he drops out I like a c/r call. Once I call my intention is to c/c most rivers. Much higher variance obv but check raise turn seems best. I chose to let it play out for fun and profit!

I x/call this texture with a lot of range not cbet. Anyways you have an awesome hand to turn into a bluff (on the river)

Unless v has no fold button then fold

Yup beat me to it, typically c/c'ing flop

Would be helpful to have stack sizes before commenting.

I assumed 1.5k stack sizes from the OP.

If hero is perceived to have been raising a lot pre than he is probably perceived to have all combos of 9T so yea I agree we have a really nice hand to turn into a bluff.

If V is half decent I kind of like c/c turn over bet jam any non paired or non 9 river. On 5s and Ts and 9s I'm leading river small (unless he's really good)

Although that might just be unnecessary variance... and I like it a lot less because he just lost 1.5k. I still do it though. If he's fishy and plays 2pair this way and doesn't fold then I c/f riv

Check raise turn seems optimal, once (a) B bets and (b) SB folds. But checking here on the turn can't be optimal given you don't know that is going to happen from either player, so again I'm just betting 250 on the turn once SB checks.

Call on river, eh. Sounds like you had a read that villain was tilted and steaming...but in the 5/10 games I play in the MD area, plenty of players flat value hands in position on this flop, which is coordinated but not to the extreme. Value hands by the way include plenty of hands you beat with 99, including a lot of 8X.

Putting someone on a pure float feels great when you're right but man...that's a bold strategy. "Guy just lost a tough hand. He flatted my flop bet in position and didn't raise. Led turn when it checked to him. Must be floating." Not sure if you're being results oriented OP... Anyway, nice read if he mucked. Not sure its as much about your line as your soul-read on villain though.