Playing in a 1-2 home game which essentially plays like a 2-5. Just want some opinions about how to play hand cause I have no idea.

Villain 1: UTG+1 ($100). Fairly simple player. Really hasn't been doing to much special but has slowly lost half his buy in

Villain 2: Mid position ($500). HUGE FISH. Asked at one point does 3 of a kind beat a straight. Also we played a hand before where I limped utg, next position opened to 12, he called, I raise to 55, original raiser goes to 125, he flats, I ship for 300 more, original raiser folds, he calls with a-8 off - I flip kings and naturally lose. Not a sob story just showing how much of a fishy we have here.

Villain 3/4 ($250 each): late position. Tight passive players, if they have a hand youll hear about it quick otherwise they usually just call pre then on the flop.

Villain 5 ($300); SB. played with him a bunch. He isn't very good and when he reraises he normally has a pretty solid hand. Also a guy who will fold if you pressure him in marginal spots. Has been complaining about running cold recently.

Hero ($230): BB. Been playing TAG, straight up. Really havn't done much special yet because we are only a couple hours into the game. Have yet to show a hand and most of my wins were raise pre, bet flop, win. Have played with most of these guys and they think that I'm tight but capable of nutty bluffs from time to time.

Okay enough background and the hand.

Villain 1: Limp
Villain 2: Raise to 7
Villain 3/4: call
Villain 5: Raise to 17
Hero: 4c3c Call
Everyone else calls

Okay I know I'm going to get ripped apart for this preflop call but let me say my logic. If this is bad let me know but here it is. First, I was 100% sure that everyone else was going to complete. No one was going to fold and there was a .001% chance that the original raiser/huge fish is going to reraise or that anyone else is going to reraise for that matter. He calls any raise pre so if anyone there had a premium hand they would have reraised. Therefore, I'm really calling 17 into 85... pretty good odds. Second, most of the table here would put me on a pocket pair and not a low suited connector. I would have raised any pocket pair above 10's and ak,aq, and folded aj and below. They know this - thus, hitting a straight or flush isn't something they are going to put me on. Therefore, if I hit a flush, I can get paid (assuming no flush over flush) and if I hit a straight I'll probably get paid too.

Flop (102)
10-7c-6c

SB: Bets 35
Hero: ???

Therein lies the problem with your logic. If you hit a flush and get any action behind you, will you be able to fold? Plus, your straight draw sucks. Never draw to a straight that isn't the nuts in a 5-way pot.

People get ripped for posting hands with this action because invariably, it always gets them into a spot like this. I've been in this spot before and will call a raise OOP with bad SCs and immediately ask myself why. Its because you'll always remember flopping that monster and winning a 200BB pot against AA or KK but will never think twice about the 200BBs you've blown off calling and folding flops or on later streets when you whiff.

As played I'm as confused as you are as to what our best line is after this weak lead with 3 players left to act behind us.

shrug and shove flop as played. Not really sure what else you can do. I probably gamble call preflop too if players stack off light post flop or there's a big whale/donator at the table.

Shove or fold. Given that SB donked into this crowd, I prefer fold. With small suited connectors your looking for a good flop and this really isn't one. You have no idea how many outs you have here, it could be decent if both the straight and flush are good, but there are nightmare cases where you have no outs at all. SB's action feels like a pair+draw a lot here though, or a flopped straight trying to induce a raise, either has you in bad shape.

This is the problem with playing hands like this OOP. I'm not really buying all the rationalization for calling a 3b from the SB with the entire table including the preflop raiser still to act but you were there and I wasn't. In general this call is a leak with just 115BBs b/c as we see if he cbets we will once again have to act for nice chunk of our stack with the entire table behind us. It's just all around bad and the rest of the hand follows accordingly.

Our seat is bad because we rarely have position on the fish which is the guy we want in the hand. We should move to our right every if any seats open up... but back to the hand.

So now the SB has led flop less than 1/3 of a pot that is half our stack. I'm conflicted because a shove chases so much action away behind us including the fish who we want in. I'm a bit perplexed by SBs c/bet. Would SB cbet air into eleventy-two people? Seems he should be betting much larger with an overpair on a draw heavy board. This would lead me to consider something like AKcc as part of his range in which case 9 of our outs are gone if stays in. If all these players stay in the pot our only clean out could be an offsuit 5 maybe which will be a crappy straight.

We have 4 hi with a terrible straight draw and a terrible flush draw facing a bet with the entire table left to act behind us... and this is an above average flop for this hand (can we revisit that preflop call decision?). You claim to have called preflop precisley because you wanted to be in this spot? Just fold and play better preflop next time.

I'm not seeing why calling 17 into 85 is pretty good odds. Our hand sucks. Even with our fd, we'll have to be more concerned than usual about a higher flush because when someone else does have a flush, we're losing every single time. Also, more flush cards that people like to play are out there. The ace of clubs is out there, the king, queen and jack of clubs is out there, the ten of clubs is out there, every club higher than a 7 is out there.

I probably just fold the flop and feel uncomfortable with the fold.

You have elected to take a variance pre flop route. You have now flopped a 4 high flush draw and a gut shot straight draw. Villain is basically telling you he has aces or Kings. Your stack is too big to flat and call what he will most likely bet on the turn, so get it in now! Other alternative is to flat and let everyone in behind and hope to bink the turn or get a scare card to cause villain to check. I would just get it in now.
Your draws may not be to the nuts, but with the size of the pot now you pretty much have to treat both of the as the nuts if you hit.

Believe it or not, this flop sucked for your hand. You have a gutshot draw to the A-hole end of the straight. You'd be better off hoping for the 4-high-flush to come in, cuz at least then you beat all the Tx, 9x, 8x, 7x, hands that fish love to play... well maybe.

Not only that, the preflop situation sucked too. When SB makes it $17, he's not folding any time soon. So hopefully you hit your 2% flop, and double up... but otherwise, you're cooked. 2% of $560 is $9.2. You called $17 to win $9.2.

I love to play small connectors and gappers. Suited is nice, but not mandatory. I don't play them a lot, but when the game is right, I add them in for that little extra opportunity. I am more likely to play "2 small cards" hands then AJo-, KTo-, etc. I am way more likely to play 65- then 9x, 8x type hands.

What I'm looking for to play them:

1) Effective stacks have to be over 100bb. The game has to be very limpy/cally. If there's a reasonable likelihood of a light 3B, forget it.

2) Call preflop 7bb or less. Smallish, "standard raise". $11-14 at 1/2. If folks routinely open for $16-20+, forget it.

3) I want there to be at most 3, but preferably 2 players seeing the flop. If its going to go way multi-way, I'm either in for a limp only, or (more likely) I'm out.

4) Villains have to be capable of folding when reasonable pressure is applied. I don't want to have to go AI on the turn to get the message across.

5) I am more then happy to raise PF from CO, Button, SB, or BB to accomplish #3. This raise is usually slightly larger, maybe 1 or 2 bb, then the "table average".

The flops I'm looking for are:

-- A-X-Z or K-X-Z where X is one of my cards, and Z gives me a gutter-straight draw (E.g. A24 and I have 52). I'm not looking to go broke here, but with the right Opponents, I'm more then happy to get frisky here. Great flop vs. Fit/fold villains who will either give up, or let you know they have the A (or K). Bluff as appropriate.

-- A-M-N where M and N are my cards. I'm looking to stack Mr. AX, period. Most of the time, I use the "Stack-a-Donk" line but sometimes "call, call, shove" line. I'm going broke in this hand, so no folding necessary. I'm not going to try to soul read a Villain if a Q hits on the river.

-- LDO... any 7-high flop where I hit 1 pair. Stack-a-Donk line, when you hit a pair on a low board. Its amazing how much value you can get with 52o out of A-big on a 732 board, before he realizes that he is a 3:1 dog going into the turn, and a 5.5:1 dog going into the river.

-- For 13+ out flops... you want to hit on the turn, PERIOD. If you're not getting good implied odds to hit on the turn, forget it. What does this mean? You need to be getting at least 6:1 implied odds for whatever flop bet you're thinking of calling. Your Villain leads the flop for $25 into $35 pot with $160 left? You basically are not getting enough implied odds to go here, but its close. If you miss on the turn, you're really only seeing a river if he's going to give you a free look at it. His turn bet is going to be something like $40-60+, and with only $100-120 left, and you're not getting the right odds to continue to draw. A much better scenario: Villain leads the flop for $25 into $35 pot with $250 left. You're getting 10:1 implied odds to hit on the turn, ONLY! You, MAY, see a river too, but even if you draw here to see just the turn, and fold after, you're going to be fine. Be careful not to chase your Villain away here...

Preflop is an instafold OOP. The SPR is bound to be horrible for your hand and you're far from closing the action. As played just jam now to maximize FE. Flatting and making it inviting for other (better) draws to call behind seems pretty bad.

Pre-flop is really bad. Get it in now.

This is a pretty ideal flop for your hand. You are flipping with SB's range {TT+, small amount of air} and way ahead of everyone else's range. The pot is bloated with a huge amount of dead money. What more do you want?

I prefer shoving, but calling to try and invite other people into the hand probably isn't bad either. Either way, you have a ton of equity in a big bloated pot, so don't fold.

I didn't realize it was SB that raised preflop. Given the situation that makes folding preflop even easier, as SB likely has a big pair or two high cards and will bet the flop a lot. This will leave you in a bad situation unless you hit the flop hard.

Post flop it changes the situation. His range is now mostly over pairs, with a chance of a flush draw or a straight c-bet with two high cards. As long as he isn't on the flush draw your had plays much better against that range. The case for shoving if heads up is much better and I would do it here if I think villain can fold an over pair some of the time. I'm still folding this multiway OOP because the risk that somebody behind will have a hand that can play is high.