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45s in the BB flops 2p but faces resistance 45s in the BB flops 2p but faces resistance

10-09-2013 , 10:46 AM
1/2, Tuesday Evening around 2pm

Hero: Moved to the table about 30 minutes ago. Came in with ~$500 on a table max of $300, a few people commented on it. I've won 1-2 pots without showdown since then. Up to $600 or so.

V: Sitting on around $400. I haven't seen him raise at all pre flop but calls a lot post flop. Maybe 45/10 or so. I get the feeling he's trying to hero people.

Earlier hand: Random raises to $12 pre flop, 6 people to the flop total. 458 V checks, 2-3 other people check. Random guy (not OR) shoves for $85, and V calls without much thought with A4

Hand:
Pre flop:
1 limp
V limps MP
2 others limp
SB completes
Hero checks 45 in the BB

Flop ($11): 459
SB checks
Hero bet $10
UTG calls
V raises to $30
3 folds
Hero?
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10-09-2013 , 11:10 AM
We block a ton of villain's value range with our hand on this board texture.

For value hands better than ours there are:
2 combos 94s
1 combo 95s
1 combo 44, 1 combo 55, 2 combos 99 (discounting a little because most people will raise 99 pre but since he's passive we will include some)

Value hands weaker than ours:
4 combos 45 (not weaker but we're not losing against the same hand)
18 combos A9/K9/Q9 (using half of these as he might not raise the flop with these hands)
10 combos TT-AA (using 1/3 of these as most will raise pre but possible he limps big pairs to trap)

Semi bluffs, the most obvious would be 16 combos of 67 for the open ender. 32 could also be in his range if he's really loose.

His range is pretty weighted towards value hands that are weaker than ours and some bluffs with the occasional monster. It's a little tricky with the 3rd player in the pot (UTG). On one hand we don't want him sticking around as if he has a 9 or a straight draw he has decent equity, but if we 3bet, we will push out a lot of villain's range that we can get value from on future streets. If Villain limped TT-AA and raised flop, he's probably going to keep betting for value on the turn and river and we should call him down. We don't want to scare those hands out of the pot (though 1/2 players might not fold them anyway). I think a small raise might be good to put pressure on the UTG player while not chasing away villain and making our value target an overpair/A9 on turns and rivers.
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10-09-2013 , 11:11 AM
Edit: sorry nevermind I misread
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10-09-2013 , 11:13 AM
Fold. You said he likes to hero people not just randomly raise people out. Two totally different mind sets. He's prob not going to value raise with any 9x so its essentially a oesd or your destroyed.

We hate most turn card and he's going to fire on most so its going to get pricey to hold and get to the river
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10-09-2013 , 12:34 PM
How can you fold here? It is entirely possible he's raising with 9x and oesd. The only hands I see you behind here are the rare 44-55, and 99 for both V and UTG. Call, evaluate turn.
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10-09-2013 , 12:45 PM
Didn't notice utg call - completely changes the hand. Yea call and re-evaluate turn. We are gonna have to face a second barrel a lot of the time so be ready to call that too.

Then soul read time on the river haha

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10-09-2013 , 01:05 PM
Gotta call this. We are well ahead of villains range. I don't think that we 3! the flop since we will mostly just fold out the hands we beat...

Still gotta dodge a lot of cards though to the river. These are big variance situations, especially when we are OOP. But I don' see us folding here. Call and re-evaluate on the turn.
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10-09-2013 , 01:44 PM
Lol he's def not raising oesd... It's fun to draw

His range is: A9 or some weirdly played JJ, sets and ur hand... U r ahead here and he's not folding any of that so raise and play for stacks later streets

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10-09-2013 , 02:11 PM
You're wayyyy ahead. If V would fast play big hands otf then he'd probably raise pre as well (aggressor's do what aggressor's do). I'd be inclined to think it's a 9 trying to protect.

I call the raise and let him barrel off. If he checks behind on turn and you think he's hero-ing, overbet river.
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10-09-2013 , 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nutes5
Fold.
No, wrong, don't fold.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nutes5
Didn't notice utg call - completely changes the hand. Yea call and re-evaluate turn.


What on earth is going on here?
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10-09-2013 , 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeakWetter
No, wrong, don't fold.




What on earth is going on here?

UTG called the flop which completely changes the hand.

Don't be
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10-09-2013 , 03:16 PM
Call. Ahead of most his range and it's too risky to bloat the pot up oop with a suspectible hand multiway if you raise, not to mention scaring away inferior hands.
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10-09-2013 , 04:28 PM
This is a dream spot, we have 2p and V has 9x majority of the time.

Only thing that sucks is that the turn/river cards are likely to kill a lot of our action.

I like a raise here. At this level, when villains show strength by raising, they are rarely if ever raise/folding. If we click it back, villain is never folding A9, K9, or TT type hands like ever. And given that he called a short stacked shove earlier with bottom pair....

yeah, raise this mother-father

click it back to $75 and if he spazzes i'm fine playing for stacks vs someone as described by OP.

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Originally Posted by nutes5
UTG called the flop which completely changes the hand.
no it doesn't, UTG calling here in this spot so far has very little bearing on the hand. Now if we raise and then UTG flats that, THEN that action completely changes the hand. But until that happens, UTG is lunch meat sandwiched between us and the donk...
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