Hi all,

Game is starting to die down. Only 6 handed now.

Effective stack is like $280.

V1: has everyone covered. Younger middle eastern guy. Drinking lots. Playing solid though.

V2: average MAWG.

OTTH: UTG open limps. We have 44 and think about raising but limp in as well UTG+1. Everyone else limps.

($18) Flop 4 5 6

SB checks, V1 is in the BB and bets $11, UTG calls $11, we raise to $35 total, button calls, BB calls. Everyone else folds

($134) Turn: A checks to me and I bet $55 button calls, BB calls.

($299) River K checks to me I bet $75 we get called by both players.

Thoughts overall? We good here?

Should be good here. I actually would have sized up a little more on the river. NH.

Your sizing is awful on every street

+1

6-handed, raise pre, $18-20.

Flop, turn and river sizing should be much larger. Missing value.

why are you betting so small?

1. I concur with consensus that you're missing value from improper bet sizing, on every street.

2. Winning the hand and getting max value are two different things.

3. To your question: Avoiding digression into how you got here, OTR without any resistance up to then, a board that hasn't changed much from beginning to end, and no resistance OTR, wouldn't you suspect hands that were beating you to go for more value? (I'll dispense with all the medium two-pair combos that would/should think they should be going for value)?

Short of entirely passive players and/or holding the nuts on the river, I'd say you're pretty much still occupying a majority of the catbird seat. Here OTR especially, bet sizing separates the guys who beat the game vs. those whom the game beats.

Turn bet sizing is criminal. This is your last shot to charge straight draws and flush draws and you have two people interested. Great time to bet big.

River is a bet for value and as played I’d rather see a much bigger bet. Sometimes you’ll be value owning yourself vs 55 and 66 but just as often you’ll be getting max from 45, 46, 56, etc.

Your entire stack needs to be in the middle.

fyp

Bet more especially on the turn, when there are two other players who like their hand so much they both called your raise. Bet at least two thirds pot then jam the river

I was kinda worried cuz it was a limped pot. V1 had 32 and V2 had AA

You were kind of worried about what?

Not necessarily that someone had AA but I was shocked to see it. I was worried about 32 and 67 but I was targeting two pair type hands

ok, so if you put them on 2 pair why bet small? Do you really think someone is ever folding 2 pair on this flop?

1. From the way you describe the play...limping AA in? especially with this many people?

2. If you're game is playing wide enough that 32 is likely out there, get something to prop your eyes open until you have a good chunk of the $$$ in play.

3. Again, without any resistance relative to flop and turn that I would be expecting from any number of other hands (including the vast majority that you're leading) river is relatively good card for you...can you see KK getting there?

I'm fine with preflop.

I probably just flat the donk. Bottom set on this type of board ain't exactly a monster. We could be behind now. We could have a lot fewer outs than we think we do (a 6/5 vs 65 is a disaster, we could be drawing to 1 out as it stands now). There are hands that have fairly decent equity. Yes, I played 44 looking to flop a set, but also to then evaluate the board and the action; at this point I don't really have enough information that suggests I would like to move towards playing for stacks. So I'm going to flat, see who does what behind me, and see what the turn brings.

I feel a little better now that BB hasn't reraised this drawy flop, but do feel a little uneasy that Button just called a raise that reopens the action. At this point, for better or worse, I think we've committed ourselves to the pot. So I would PSB the turn to stack off on the river. Our bet is *way* too small if committed, imo, especially since there are so many scare cards that kill our hand.

On the river we have $187 left in a $299 pot. Are we ever folding? I doubt anyone is going to bluff a busted draw 3ways. I would probably just shove at this point.

Hand is weirdly played, imo, in that sizing is all over the place on various streets where it seems to me we have no idea when / whether we feel committed.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Played pretty standard, I am not a fan of open limping though. You lost the minimum given the AA limped and the 2-3 was let in the pot for cheap. If you would have raised pre you would have lost more to AA.

You gotta be shoveling money in on this flop, you're crushing their ranges and so, so many turn cards crush you (either by putting you behind or by killing the action you get from worse hands)

Turn card is fine for you, again, time to pile in the monies. Ace does kill calls from some of the hands like 99 though plus the value of chasing a flush draw just declined by a lot, so you should see more folds here.

The turn is the worst spot, you needed to size your bet so you could get it all in on the river