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3bet Ip 100bb deep JThh?? 3bet Ip 100bb deep JThh??

09-06-2016 , 05:13 PM
V is white male twenties young. He's been passive, limping in when he wants to play usually, may have open raised once before. Been very tight.

Folds to hero on the Btn JThh 500 eff makes it 15
Sb is V who raises to 45
Can I peel? Or is this a standard fold?
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09-06-2016 , 05:14 PM
stakes?
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09-06-2016 , 05:15 PM
Getting 2:1 in position, with a pot that will have an SPR of 5 if we call, I'm peeling with JTs, but proceeding cautiously obviously.
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09-06-2016 , 05:15 PM
Nevermind. I see that it's 2/5.

Probably still fold. I suspect we're up against a range of TT+ and AK.
We're not going great here and any flop that we connect with well will also smash his range.
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09-06-2016 , 06:58 PM
i'd rather we were deeper to call here. 200bb deep i think this is an auto call vs most opponents. 100bb deep, i probably lean towards a fold as a 3bet at these stakes reps a very narrow range and with only 100bb we don't have a ton of room to manuevre once we see a flop, especially considering this guy has QQ+, AK here like 95% of the time.

so without reads that this guy 3bets light i probably fold being only 100bb deep but i don't think a call is awful
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09-06-2016 , 08:18 PM
fold. ainecal

Quote:
Originally Posted by jglman91
Getting 2:1 in position, with a pot that will have an SPR of 5 if we call, I'm peeling with JTs, but proceeding cautiously obviously.
if proceeding cautiously means playing fit or fold rather than creative, the call is a losing proposition. But I don't see any dynamic to call anyway. The hand looks so pretty, I understand how you might get fooled.
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09-06-2016 , 08:29 PM
Folding and moving on
If you had a few callers then yeah I could see a call but HU and if we call a spr of 5 not loving this spot at all.
What are we hoping to flop? TP? Flush draw? A big combo draw ?
Say we hit TP and he starts to bomb away are you feeling happy about calling a cbet or double barrel?
This is just a hand that plays very well MW but poorly HU
you do have position but your reads a passive/tight if they start raising it should raise flags now this guy is 3betting his range is all most only AA/KK so if you think he you could get his whole stack maybe you could call but even then I would not be feeling great about it

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09-06-2016 , 08:34 PM
Trivial fold as described, his range crushes us and we are not getting anywhere near the implied odds needed to flat. Give me 40:1 and I call.
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09-06-2016 , 08:37 PM
Folding vs described V. Would gladly call JTs vs opponents who can 3bet light over a btn raise.
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09-07-2016 , 03:20 AM
Only defend JTs otb vs villians who are capable of 3! light here, or when you are very deep.

If this guy, like most live villians, generally 3!s nutted hands than this is a fold. If he is an onliney reg, then call
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09-07-2016 , 03:28 AM
Folding every time and feeling good. Even if this guy is 3! A bit wider, without a good plan and a detailed historical dynamic fold always.
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