Late night at the Horseshoe Hammond playing 1/2. I've had a roller coaster of a day, but hit my second wind about an hour before this hand. I'm into the game for 800 and have around 620 in front of me. I've just been forced to move tables for the second time in around an hour and a half and don't have a ton of reads on the table yet, except the giant stack at the table I've played with before. She is a fish and doesn't understand deep stack play. She's coolered two people since I've sat down. There are one or two players I've played with at other tables that night, aside from those two, no one has a read on me. One of them has just commented that he thinks I'm a very good player and will be avoiding me the rest of the night.

V1 (1200)
V2 (350)
Hero (620)
Rest of the table has between 200 and 500.

Preflop there are three limps, V1, on the button raises to 15, I make it 45 in the SB with KK. Blinds fold, first limper, V2, flats 45, other two limpers fold, button calls.

Pot 136 (6 rake already pulled), three players to the flop.
Flop 2 3 8

What's your play and why?

I chose to C-bet 75, V2 folds, V1 looks back at her hand, thinks for a bit and makes it 175.

I debated between 3 options:
1) Flatting the 175 and shoving any non-club turn
2) Raising to 375 with the intention of calling a shove
3) Shoving for 575

What's your play and why?

Recent info on her: She's just 4 bet all in PF with QQ (for about 170), shes 4 bet preflop with AA and then got it all in against a short stack on the flop. My read is that KK/AA are out due to the lack of re-raise preflop (and she re-raises with queens 2 out of 3 times), and I also feel like she would just flat postflop with something like AK / AQ based on the way I've seen her play made hands in the past. My read is she has 99-JJ (and occasionally QQ) with a club.

I'm not good enough to narrow villains range to exclude made flushes or sets. I'm not thrilled about getting 300bbs in the middle in this spot where we just have 1 pair and no draw. I'd be interested to here what some other players think though.

Have you seen her raise like this before? I'm not thrilled with this, either. I might flat, but I might just fold. I think she's never folding a flush if you raise. The only thing we are really ahead of is AcX.

I tend to want to fold in this spot too. We are slightly ahead of AcXx, slightly ahead of JcJx type hands and are way ahead of JxJx type hands but she'd have to be really terrible to have a hand like that here considering this is a 3bet pot. The rest of her range crushes us bad.

This deep, I'd raise more pre to like $55-60, not because I want her to fold I just want more money in the pot and "She is a fish and doesn't understand deep stack play"


My standard play would be to lead the flop for $45, but with 2 players and I have no club, I am leaning towards a check. Sure I give up some equity against a club draw, but I get to under rep my hand for a turn value bet($100) on any non club turn.

As played-

Call the raise, and check call any half pottish turn bet(check/fold river), she may be trying to "protect her hand" like 89/TT/AcX

I'm never raising, it sets up a spot where best case we are coin flipping or drawing dead, and make her fold any hand we are absolutely crushing.

Check the flop. I don't like to cbet on a board like this without redraw because you could get off of your hand by a weird screwy play by other players (99,TT,JJ with a club)

You have an easy fold if another club hits on the turn and also, the V might actually check as well if another club comes thinking it counterfeit his flopped flush (but given the odds, let's discount the flopped flush)

Check/call the flop and hope for another club hits on the turn and turn your KK into a bluff. If that's not the plan then you could give up the hand and fold.

It looks like the villain might have flopped a set on this board though.

If your read is solid you should flat the flop raise and do yourself a biggie by seeing if the turn is a club before you commit.

fold. ez game. next time 3 bet bigger cause of your position. People will call you lighter.