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02-16-2018 , 10:40 PM
$1/3 table opened an hour ago, probably seen 15 3b's pre so it's a great table.

V ($200) just sat down UTG, 30yo WG. Gives off 100% a scared money, new to poker vibe. I see it and I believe most of the other V's can see it as well.

H ($350) UTG +1 table probably views me as loose-passive because I've been letting them over-agro.

OTTH

V opens for $10 UTG on his 1st hand. This is a slightly smaller bet than standard opens but V doesn't know that.

H UTG +1 has AcAh and flats the $10. I'm thinking 3b is super likely based on the fishy fish, the smaller open size and my $10 behind it.

Folds to button who calls, both blinds folded. Table did not respond how I expected.

Flop ($30)
Qd4d4c

V checks, H bets $20. I think this is normal. Should be a lot of Q in V's range, not a lot of 4. Could be any PP as well.

Turn ($69)
Js

V checks, H bets $40. Again, not too worried about the J. QJ got there which isn't great. QQ and JJ both got there but I should learn quickly if he's holding either of those. Maybe a spazz 4 but I can't see checking here. V calls.

River ($149)
4h
V checks again. H? V only has $130 behind so less than a PSB but I don't think he's thinking that way. The river 4 counterfeit QJ but obviously turned a spazz 4 into quads.

Does H go for value or check it back? I think this is a simple question but just want confirmation. Thanks.
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02-16-2018 , 11:06 PM
You do realize that you are ahead of QJ on the turn right?

You have AA44Q, and he had QQJJ4...

Also, shove the river. Easy game and great run out for you all things considered.


And 3bet pre.
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02-16-2018 , 11:13 PM
IRT - I'm an idiot, clearly I'm ahead of QJ on the turn. Didn't have that thought at table, got slightly dumber as I'm recalling a couple of hands from the night. If I was thinking better when I signed up for 2+2 I would have the login name "three-pair". Thanks. Also completely agree that this is a good runout for my hand.
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02-16-2018 , 11:21 PM
$45-50 turn. Shove river.

I don’t mind pre. You tried to set a trap and it didn’t pan out - no biggie. When that happens you just proceed a little more cautiously if it’s more multiway.

As this hand illustrates, it’s still possible to get max value even after your initial plan fails to materialize.
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02-17-2018 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
$45-50 turn. Shove river.

I don’t mind pre. You tried to set a trap and it didn’t pan out - no biggie. When that happens you just proceed a little more cautiously if it’s more multiway.

As this hand illustrates, it’s still possible to get max value even after your initial plan fails to materialize.
+1, I have been guilty of this too , going for the fancy limp raise, generally better to 3boverall , even be it a smaller 3, as played great run out, value bet every street , V should never have a spew any card under 10 here especially considering your description of V and that he opened utg ,
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02-17-2018 , 05:38 AM
I never flat with AA. It can be a wise tactic but having AA in multiway pots is a recipe for losing huge hands.
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02-17-2018 , 05:20 PM
H bet $100 thinking it would scare the fish less than an all-in. He said I know you have me beat, tanked and called with JJ. I flipped over A’s and I think he thought he lost.
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02-17-2018 , 11:26 PM
Why are we showing our cards when we don't have to?

Gives Villains info that wouldn't otherwise be given.

If we were bluffing, OK, it's "advertising" for next time.

But AA? Not a good idea.
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02-17-2018 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nozsr
Why are we showing our cards when we don't have to?

Gives Villains info that wouldn't otherwise be given.

If we were bluffing, OK, it's "advertising" for next time.

But AA? Not a good idea.
He checked, I bet, he called. Customary to show when called, no?
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02-19-2018 , 01:53 PM
I don't mind the preflop plan. But against scared money who is opening UTG, even for a small raise size, this is typically a big hand, so I might still just lean towards a 3bet.

SPR is 6ish, so should easily be able to play for stacks by the river.

I'm cool with the flop bet.

I'm cool with the turn bet. Note that we're ahead of QJ.

Really easy ship for me on the river. QQ/JJ/4x is just so unlikely to risk a check back that I think they donk the majority of the time somewhere. Can easily be up against KK/AQ/KQ/QJ or whatever that will pay off.

GfinewithhandifweshippedriverG
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