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3! Small pocket pairs? 3! Small pocket pairs?

01-17-2017 , 12:13 PM
Several times a session I run into a spot where I'm lp facing mp or lp open raise and I have pocket pairs 22-99.

Under what conditions do you 3! These hands? Stack sizes, opponent tendencies? People in blinds?

When do you flat? When do you fold?

Would love to read some interesting arguments.

Thanks!
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01-17-2017 , 12:15 PM
3-betting if they raise/fold a ton. Other times, I call and play some post-flop. Although, you probably don't want to be adding PPs, as much as you want to be adding in Ax/Kx/Qx/Jx

Some people you are actually 3-betting for value those hands, that is going to depend on how loose they are. I might 3-bet them all-in if they are really short.

I like to think I play good post-flop and I'm all for making people's life tough OOP vs me IP.

If we have a very good player in the blinds, he's going to 3-bet you a lot and you'll need to adjust (whether that's calling 4-betting him with value trap hands and mixing in bluffs) or trapping, and/or tightening our range up.

And/or loosening our call range.

Last edited by Dochrohan; 01-17-2017 at 12:28 PM.
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01-17-2017 , 12:33 PM
Would sometimes 3-bet 99 for value depending on PFR and number of callers. Otherwise, these hands are almost always calls and set-mines for me. If 3-betting light I'd prefer to do it with hands like Axs or suited connectors, which are more likely to generate semi-bluffing opportunities, as opposed to pocket pairs.
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01-17-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
Would sometimes 3-bet 99 for value depending on PFR and number of callers. Otherwise, these hands are almost always calls and set-mines for me. If 3-betting light I'd prefer to do it with hands like Axs or suited connectors, which are more likely to generate semi-bluffing opportunities, as opposed to pocket pairs.
I'm not calling these hands for set mine only, and I doubt you are to. If you are, you're playing position wrong.

FWIW, I think your 3-bet range might be too tight. Depends a lot on V call tendency and fold tendency along with raise tendency. But I'm going a lot wider than that if they fold too much and our players behind are not goofs.
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01-17-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
I'm not calling these hands for set mine only, and I doubt you are to. If you are, you're playing position wrong.
FWIW, I think your 3-bet range might be too tight. Depends a lot on V call tendency and fold tendency along with raise tendency. But I'm going a lot wider than that if they fold too much and our players behind are not goofs.
That's fair, I'm also looking to play a small pot with one pair hands if head's up and the board run out is good.

I find I don't get a ton of folds to 3-bets, so usually doing it for value.
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01-17-2017 , 12:46 PM
Even if he raise calls a fair % and our V's behind are not loose, specifially if they raise wide. You can punish players like this OOP postflop.

You want to have some hands that do alright though. Generate a range and go with it/keep an eye on the game flow, you don't want to start getting 4-bet a lot, adjust if it's not working.
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01-17-2017 , 01:37 PM
Generally calling with IO because 99- is often behind an earlier position opening range. I'll fold if the IO isn't there and the raiser is tight. I'll sometimes 3! a super loose straightforward player who I can easily outplay postflop HU.
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01-17-2017 , 03:43 PM
22-99 are drawing hands. Flat if the raiser is EP or MP and the stack to bet ratio is 10 or higher. Three bet if Villain is in LP and the SBR is less than 10. You can also reraise a LP raise if you are in the blinds.
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01-17-2017 , 04:05 PM
He is talking about MP-LP opens while he's in LP, why we talking EP
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