3! KK on BTN gets called, crappy flop gets checked around. 2-5
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V1 will call almost anything preflop with ATC and will continue if he hits a piece. Definition of a calling station/fish.
V2 Reg who i'm friendly with, we usually stay out of eachothers way
V3 Calling station preflop, have seen him raise lite and call 3!s when lite for 20% of his stack when OOP.
Hero: Solid TAG, well known in the room, on this particular table has always had it when gone to show down.
Eff stacks are ~500 all around
2-5
V2 raises to 35 in MP, V3 calls in LP, Hero raises to 100 OTB with KcKh, V1 calls in SB, V2 tank calls, V3 calls.
Flop As10s3h (~400)
Checks around to hero.
Hero?
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Seems like an easy check back since you're only getting value against 1 player here.
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Check and see what happens on turn. Small stacks and multiple villains should freeze action and it's likely to be checked to river. If it does make it the whole way to river your probably best, but I still wouldn't bet because only V1 is likely to call with worse and both V1 and V3 could have weak AX that won't bet but won't fold. If there is any significant bets, just give up but if V2 or V3 makes a small bet I might call one bet.
With 2 or 3 villains I would sometimes lead for $100 and see what happens. That is an under bet, but with very small effective stacks and not tricky villains, that should be enough to find out where you are in hand. Here, somebody has AX most of the time and won't fold.
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My reads are: V1 will fold his whiffs and call with his gutters, pairs, FD. From the way he tank called, V2 only has pocket pairs in his range. V3 will fold A2-A9 50% of the time, call with his FD and A10+ 100%.
Is this still a check?
I think from my line of questioning here you can tell what I did... It got called in all 3 spots by V1: no show, V2: 1010, V3, Ks2s. I'm not worried about the fact that I lost the hand to the set, I can just chalk that up to variance.
Was jamming the correct play against these ranges or should I give them the opportunity to see a free card when there is almost no card i'm going to like on the turn and their is a decent chance if I hope to check it through I can get accidentally bluffed off the best hand?
Last edited by SunChips; 02-09-2014 at 11:57 PM.
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Clear check back, folding to a turn bet. Too likely someone has an ace and you had two outs
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Guess it's close since we don't have to worry about V2 much but we'd be better off checking back and seeing what happens. If V3 had the same calling range as V1 then I could see a value bet.
