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Old 02-17-2014, 03:21 PM   #1
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3 hands (Asking for advice on my play)

3 hands from my live session today. All of these are wins but am curious to if they were played correctly?

HAND #1
$1/$2 - No Limit Holdem
Seat 1: Seat 1 ($101)
Seat 2: Hero ($300)
Seat 3: Seat 3 ($80)
Seat 4: Seat 4 ($80)
Seat 5: Seat 5 ($150)
Seat 6: Seat 6 ($80)
Seat 7: Seat 7 ($80)
Seat 8: Seat 8 ($80)
Seat 9: Seat 9 ($225)
Seat 1 posts the small blind of $1
Hero posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc Js]
Seat 3 folds
Seat 4 folds
Seat 5 raises to $12
Seat 6 folds
Seat 7 folds
Seat 8 folds
Seat 9 calls $12
Seat 1 calls $11
Hero calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Qh 10d 7h]
Seat 1 checks
Hero checks
Seat 5 checks
Seat 9 checks
*** TURN *** [Qh 10d 7h] [Jd]
Seat 1 bets $89 (All-In)
Hero calls $89
Seat 5 folds
Seat 9 folds
*** RIVER *** [Qh 10d 7h Jd] [7c]
Seat 1 shows [Qs 9c]
Hero shows [Qc Js]
Hero wins the pot ($226)

I tanked for a good 2 minutes thinking about the hour and a half I have played with the guy to my right and decided to make the call with the 2 behind me. The 2 behind me were looking at me while in the tank like hurry up because they wanted to muck their hands as fast as possible, therefor I wasn't worried about a call behind me. However that was based off a read. Question here is 1 should I even be making this call and if so or not, why? And 2, should I of raised instead of just calling although with their stacks a shove over the top would of had me pot committed anyways.

HAND #2
$1/$2 - No Limit Holdem
Seat 1: Seat 1 ($285)
Seat 2: Hero ($425)
Seat 3: Seat 3 ($80)
Seat 4: Seat 4 ($80)
Seat 5: Seat 5 ($80)
Seat 6: Seat 6 ($80)
Seat 7: Seat 7 ($80)
Seat 8: Seat 8 ($80)
Seat 9: Seat 9 ($80)
Hero posts the small blind of $1
Seat 3 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac As]
Seat 4 calls $2
Seat 5 calls $2
Seat 6 folds
Seat 7 folds
Seat 8 calls $2
Seat 9 calls $2
Seat 1 calls $2
Hero raises to $15
Seat 3 folds
Seat 4 folds
Seat 5 folds
Seat 8 folds
Seat 9 folds
Seat 1 calls $13
*** FLOP *** [Jd 6c 4s]
Hero bets $20
Seat 1 calls $20
*** TURN *** [Jd 6c 4s] [7h]
Hero checks
Seat 1 bets $25
Hero raises to $75
Seat 1 calls $50
*** RIVER *** [Jd 6c 4s 7h] [3d]
Hero bets $75
Seat 1 calls $75
Seat 1 mucks
Hero shows [Ac As]
Hero wins the pot ($380)

This hand I felt I played pretty well. The check on the turn was designed to do exactly what it did, induce a bet. However I felt if he had a big hand, he would check behind me or have no hand at all. When he called I put him in k/j or a/j or even q/q which is what I was hoping he had. When the river came a 3, there was no way he had a 5 the way the hand was played. I asked to see the rest of his stack and then bet what I thought was enough to show him I will call if he pushes just in case he was pondering a raise with 2 pair. But also low enough to induce a call if he had the hands I mentioned above.

HAND #3
$1/$2 - No Limit Holdem
Seat 1: Seat 1 ($80)
Seat 2: Hero ($550)
Seat 3: Seat 3 ($80)
Seat 4: Seat 4 ($80)
Seat 5: Seat 5 ($80)
Seat 6: Seat 6 ($80)
Seat 7: Seat 7 ($340)
Seat 8: Seat 8 ($80)
Seat 9: Seat 9 ($80)
Seat 6 posts the small blind of $1
Seat 7 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac Kd]
Seat 8 folds
Seat 9 calls $2
Seat 1 calls $2
Hero raises to $12
Seat 3 folds
Seat 4 folds
Seat 5 folds
Seat 6 folds
Seat 7 calls $10
Seat 9 calls $10
Seat 1 calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Ac Kh 6h]
Seat 7 checks
Seat 9 checks
Seat 1 checks
Hero bets $15
Seat 7 raises to $30
Seat 9 folds
Seat 1 folds
Hero calls $15
*** TURN *** [Ac Kh 6h] [4d]
Seat 7 bets $30
Hero calls $30
*** RIVER *** [Ac Kh 6h 4d] [2s]
Seat 7 bets $60
Hero calls $60
Hero shows [Ac Kd]
Seat 7 shows [Kc Jc]
Hero wins the pot ($289)

My play here I feel I didn't get maximum value and will let you all smash my play here with top 2. I will say though I watched him play a set the same way about 15-20 hands before this hand. I figured if he had 2 pair with like a/6 or k/6 being in the BB then I will just keep pot control and take it down at showdown instead of getting into a big pot against a flopped set. Opinions?

Thanks for all the help guys! Appreciate the feedback and it helps me imrove my game!
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:38 PM   #2
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Re: 3 hands (Asking for advice on my play)

anyone!?
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:49 PM   #3
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Re: 3 hands (Asking for advice on my play)

We generally like to keep threads to one hand at a time.

Lead the flop in hand one for 60-75% of pot and fold if raised. The board is so drawy, we can get fat vaue from draws. Most LLSNL players don't have the stones to bluff raise or jam draws, so we can comfortably bet / fold most hands on most streets.

Hand 2, raise more pre. There are so many limpers...a raise to $15 will start a donkey train of callers and we'll be playing against the entire table often. I'd raise to $20 pre. The flop bet is okay...bord is dry, no need to bomb it. Turn ch/r is bad, imo. Think about how often he will check back vs call a ch/r and compare that to the times he calls a $50-60. I think betting nets a higher rate overall, because not only do LLSNL players view the ch/r as super strong, we also risk him chcking back....and that makes it harder to stack his KJ / AJ hands or w/e.

Hand 3 is terrible. Sizing...vomit. jam somewhere proly. Ugh.

Posting one hand at a time allows us to dive in deeper and talk about villian descriptions and how to exploit them. We can look at each street closer. Thanks for posting and keep 'em coming. Biggest suggestion is work on sizing bigger everywhere.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:39 PM   #4
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Re: 3 hands (Asking for advice on my play)

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We generally like to keep threads to one hand at a time.

Lead the flop in hand one for 60-75% of pot and fold if raised. The board is so drawy, we can get fat vaue from draws. Most LLSNL players don't have the stones to bluff raise or jam draws, so we can comfortably bet / fold most hands on most streets.

Hand 2, raise more pre. There are so many limpers...a raise to $15 will start a donkey train of callers and we'll be playing against the entire table often. I'd raise to $20 pre. The flop bet is okay...bord is dry, no need to bomb it. Turn ch/r is bad, imo. Think about how often he will check back vs call a ch/r and compare that to the times he calls a $50-60. I think betting nets a higher rate overall, because not only do LLSNL players view the ch/r as super strong, we also risk him chcking back....and that makes it harder to stack his KJ / AJ hands or w/e.

Hand 3 is terrible. Sizing...vomit. jam somewhere proly. Ugh.

Posting one hand at a time allows us to dive in deeper and talk about villian descriptions and how to exploit them. We can look at each street closer. Thanks for posting and keep 'em coming. Biggest suggestion is work on sizing bigger everywhere.
Sorry about the 3 hands. Will take note of that for the future! Yea the sizing on that hand was horrible and I don't know what happened. I just went off of a read really heavy instead of the hand itself. Thanks for all your advice!
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Old 02-17-2014, 09:00 PM   #5
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Wow I was responding and it deleted, I'm not typing it all again sorry.

Hand 1 is ok, I make this call around 50% of the time, just not every time.

Hand 2 and 3 you lost major value on every street. In particular Hand 3 when V takes a r/b/b line. We should have raised him every street, except maybe the flop. Raising OTT and OTR would have easily allowed us to get around 200 more in value. Hand 3 you really played too passively letting him get away with tiny bets (relative to the pot).
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Old 02-17-2014, 09:11 PM   #6
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Wow I was responding and it deleted, I'm not typing it all again sorry.

Hand 1 is ok, I make this call around 50% of the time, just not every time.

Hand 2 and 3 you lost major value on every street. In particular Hand 3 when V takes a r/b/b line. We should have raised him every street, except maybe the flop. Raising OTT and OTR would have easily allowed us to get around 200 more in value. Hand 3 you really played too passively letting him get away with tiny bets (relative to the pot).
I agree 100% the more I look at it now that I have it "on paper". I agree with hand 3 the most. Hand 2 I agree with possibly betting the turn instead of the c/r but I guess in the moment I was thinking I wanted him to think I was giving up then attempting a bluff but oh well definitely played them wrong looking back and will improve it next time. Hand 3 is really bugging me at how poorly I played it!
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