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09-28-2018 , 11:55 AM
H: (200) early in session so hard to say what my image looks like but in general I should have a TAG image
V: (250) seems like a fairly competent player capable of laying down some hands more frequently than the average 1/2 player

I open to 10 with 75s in LP, ( I think LJ or HJ) mixing it up here a bit , I prefer a open here rather than an open limp and I want to put some hands like this in my LP opening range occasionally.
V calls in the SB,

F: AQ6 (2 spades), He checks , I bet 15 ( thinking this is good board for my range) when he calls im putting him on some Ax hands, and draws, sometimes some Qx hands as well but feels more like a weak AX here.


T: (10) , he checks and I bet 35 for similar reasons as flop , I want to continue my story of having top pair or better, he calls, I am little concerned here but I feel like I can get him to fold most of his range on most rivers. (AQ and A10 are only hands that will get super sticky on river), (discounting sets at this point, thought he would raise flop or turn with sets)


R: (K) off suit but 4 to a straight on board, given the line I've taken I think he would bet into me with a J so when he checks to me I think it is great spot to fire triple barrel , ( I was doing this on most rivers) I make it 110 on the river. I can rep Ak, AJ, and flush draws that hit a straight, I feel I have more FE against this player type to I wanted to barrel a lot rivers here


Thoughts?
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09-28-2018 , 12:42 PM
Without a better read on villain you need to give up at some point the majority of the time. It's not really a good board for a c-bet because a villain with QX won't give up to the first bet and then your guessing on the turn how strong villain is. It is an ace high board though so some c-bets are OK. You whiffed entirely and a flop c-bet is likely your best chance to win. You didn't mention but if you actually have the 75 of spades then the flop bet is an obvious semi-bluff.

Once you get to the turn you need to give up some of the time and without a better read on villain it's guesswork. In abstract continue something around 1/2 to 1/3 of the time.

On the river you need to give up almost every time. Your continuing on turn on a dangerous board pushes villain towards having a strong hand or having a straight draw. Trying to bluff this river will be running into a good two pair or the nuts a lot.

Also notice that villain with the straight won't always bet. You have been betting aggressively and a villain with a straight is likely to give you a chance to continue. Your range is polarized to strong hands and garbage so he doesn't give up much by checking.
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09-28-2018 , 04:16 PM
interesting, yea I didn't have spades should've mentioned that,
I have to disagree with you on the river, I feel like him having a stronger range should provoke me to bluff more on the river because the K is a very dynamic card. If I was semi-bluffing and he was calling down light or even with two pair he is suddenly in a tough spot unless he has a Jx of spades hand or Aj ; I think he will look to lead into me most of the time with the J on the river thinking that I have AQ or AK a lot just looking to get to showdown at that point but he could certainly be checking the nuts to me which would suck obviously
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09-28-2018 , 04:38 PM
fold pre

check turn

dont mix things up just for the sake of it, opening here is burning money w/ 75s.

river is ok once you spew this hard though, though you really rep nothing. A good amount of Jx you have should be checking ott when you have a pair + SD in theory, but in practice a lot of people will overfold this river and might not be thinking you should have checks with at least some or most AJ/J10 ott.
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09-28-2018 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
fold pre

check turn

dont mix things up just for the sake of it, opening here is burning money w/ 75s.

river is ok once you spew this hard though, though you really rep nothing. A good amount of Jx you have should be checking ott when you have a pair + SD in theory, but in practice a lot of people will overfold this river and might not be thinking you should have checks with at least some or most AJ/J10 ott.
Yeah my story makes no sense on the river, that's why I wanted to double check this line, It's weird tho because I still got the bet through and he said, "nice hit" so I guess he was giving me credit for a J here
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09-28-2018 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tmo1120
Yeah my story makes no sense on the river, that's why I wanted to double check this line, It's weird tho because I still got the bet through and he said, "nice hit" so I guess he was giving me credit for a J here
Tbh i expect a bet here ap to get through here pretty often when you 3-barrel, it’s super hard for someone to call here with a 4-liner to broadway holding Ax weak kicker, or even weak two pair psychologically. I think a lot of players are just overfolding here, thinking you check back AK/AQ/A10 and sets a good amount and you have very few natural bluffs. Think when you get to the river it’s a mandatory barrel but a good handreader may be able to sniff out the bluff since you don’t have many Jx in your range unless you’re a button clicker who always keeps barreling with pair + SD on bad boards to barrel on.

E.g. JJ should be checking somewhere at least otf or ott for sure, dbl barreling makes no sense. AJ isnt a 3 street game so i think checking is a little better, either otf or ott. J10 picks up SDV ott but never folds better so no reason to bet.

Nice bluff though and on getting it through
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09-29-2018 , 07:58 AM
Thanks man and thanks for the feedback , You're forgetting about Jx of spades tho lol probably the only thing I would triple barrel with here that would make sense , like KJ of spades, I think this type of play has more success at this stake level, where hand reading skills are not very strong
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09-29-2018 , 08:06 AM
I thought you had spades

Without spades I hate flop turn and river but especially rivet
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09-29-2018 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
I thought you had spades

Without spades I hate flop turn and river but especially rivet
wouldn't me not having spades make it more likely that my opponent has a busted FD on river? I know its much better to barrel with equity
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09-29-2018 , 08:32 AM
I don't mind PF at all, assuming you are good enough to not get sucked into putting in a lot of money post-flop with mediocre holdings.

Once the turn arrives, you're probably smoked and should just plan to give up on the hand.
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