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11-05-2013 , 04:31 AM
UTG(200) Horrible player, berates the dealer, throws folded cards that turn over during hands, splashes pot. Shows down really weak hands - calls most any draw for any price. Has reloaded 4+ times in less than 2 hours.

Hero (165) UTG +2. I have a pretty tight image though I've been been stacked once already by CO when I had TPTK.

CO (300) Fairly reasonable player - usually shows down 2 pair or better. Not too many obvious mistakes but I've seen him call down some expensive draws.

Button (110) Laggy player, I saw him 3 bet 72 suited preflop against 2 players. He has been playing tight the last orbit or 2 because he's running bad.

Many hands have gone unraised preflop and I'm looking to get into hands with UTG and the Button.

UTG limps
Fold
Hero calls with 76
Fold
CO calls
Button raises to 20
Blinds fold
UTG, Hero and CO call.
Pot is 88. Flop is 245

Checked to CO who bets 20
Button folds
UTG raises to 60
Pot is 168
Hero?
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11-05-2013 , 05:13 AM
Sigh,should be folding pre for any amount. As played it's an easy jam.Only hand we really don't wanna see is 88 with a heart but even than it's almost a flip.
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11-05-2013 , 07:38 AM
Fold pf or raise with more stack but don't call on utg.
Normally instant push 145.
CO likely fold, UTG call and you to pray.
So, I asked:
In this case that we don't have FE vs UTG, we only have a strong draw and we are committed, is not better call for to involve to CO??
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11-05-2013 , 09:43 AM
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11-05-2013 , 05:49 PM
What is the max buy in? And limp callin OOP is bad but u flopped the world stick it In on the flop.
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11-05-2013 , 08:08 PM
The max buy in is 200. I hope to move up to a 100BB game once my game improves.
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11-05-2013 , 09:29 PM
you can't profitably play a hand like 67s when this short-stacked. Not possible. You're actually doing your game more harm than good playing with 33BB, unless you can adjust your hand selection to hands that can profit long-term to your stack size.
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11-05-2013 , 09:33 PM
Yep. Too short of a stack to be profitable. You need at least 400 for this to be worth it (20xpfr).

As played, I would of led out 60 and shove any turn or raise.
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11-06-2013 , 05:41 AM
Seriously horrible call preflop with 76s when the raise is like 15% of our stack...

as played, this is a super easy snap shove on this flop AINEC...

I'm not a big fan of going for a c/r shove here because life sucks if this board checks through on flop and our equity cuts in half on turn...

to be fair, going for a c/r shove isn't terrible but I think optimal line is to just open shovel this flop...

So fold pre, but if you see this flop this is a snap shove and as played, this is a super snap shove. Jam it like strawberry jam on toast...

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Originally Posted by Mickeypowell5
Yep. Too short of a stack to be profitable. You need at least 400 for this to be worth it (20xpfr).

As played, I would of led out 60 and shove any turn or raise.
Pot is $88 we have $140 behind... doing anything other than jamming all our money in on this flop while we have majority equity and possible fold equity loses us value long term. If we try to get cute and bet $60 on flop, if we are called, pot will be much bigger than eff stacks behind and thus if we whiff turn we will have ZERO fold equity. On the flip side, if we bink turn we can actually lose value as villains may/will fold X% of the time because they put us on the draw that hits and we lose value that way as well. When the SPR is < 2 we simply aren't deep enough to get cute and go for 1/2 pot or 2/3 pot semi-bluff value bet hybrid plays... We are just better off jamming the money all in the instant the action gets to us...

Last edited by dgiharris; 11-06-2013 at 05:48 AM.
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11-06-2013 , 05:55 AM
Flop pre. Now smile while shoving.
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11-06-2013 , 11:32 AM
With the stacks being as short as they are this is an open fold pre, not a limp. Low suited connectors go way way down in value when the average stack size is 40ish bigs.

This is definitely a fold again when you get raised another 3bb. He only has another 18bb after the raise; you can't be calling another 3bb here with 7 high.

As played you flopped the world. Shoving here maximizes our limited fold equity and possibly folds out better flush draws. The flop action really couldn't have gone any better for you. Shovel it in there and cross your fingers.
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11-06-2013 , 04:38 PM
Limp pre is terrrrrible. Terrrrrrrible. Look at your stack.

Flop is a pokerstove question. This a pure math spot, go run the numbers versus their ranges.
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