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3/5 NL: Top pair and nut flush draw on turn. Line check 3/5 NL: Top pair and nut flush draw on turn. Line check

06-19-2016 , 12:38 PM
V1(LP.1500): Early 30s white man. Lose side. Just sat down like 15 mins,but plays many hands already.

Hero(UTG,1000);Hero probably has tight image and doesn't have wide ranges but I don't think he knows.

Pre flop: Hero raises to 20 with AsQs. 4 callers

Flop(100) QdJs5d
Hero bets, 60. only V calls.

Turn(220):Ts
Hero checks, V bets 150. hero tank calls.

River(520):7s
Hero leads 340. V tank calls.

Questions:
Do you bet on turn? If yes, how much? What if V raises?

Do you check raise on river? or just lead out?
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06-19-2016 , 01:12 PM
Yes, I bet turn. Get that value. Don't count on loose-passive players to bet for you. Sure, he has some 2-pair and straights in his range, but he also has a crap tone of XdYd, much of which has a Jd/Td. I bet about $150 for pure value. If raised, it depends on sizing, but likely folding, given how strong his range would have to be to raise on this board.

AP: always leading river. None of the above range is betting for us after we c/c that turn.
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06-19-2016 , 03:13 PM
Totally disagree with garick. Its a very good spot to check ott. pretty much the dream hand.

River as played check/raise > lead
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06-19-2016 , 04:10 PM
Care to explain why? I explained my reasoning. What are the factors that lead you to disagree?

Trappy play really only works on aggressive Vs, imo. Otherwise you just trap yourself in to playing small pots with your strongest holdings. Loose/passive Vs (most LLSNL Vs) have weak ranges that will rarely bet scary boards, but have wide calling ranges that will often pay off multiple bets, even on scary boards.
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06-19-2016 , 11:48 PM
Bet bet bet. Well played. Don't expect V to do the work for you.


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06-20-2016 , 03:46 AM
Hand was wp.
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06-20-2016 , 12:04 PM
hmmmm, I like the check but I might have just shoved there coz I don't think he ever has a straight, we obv have AK in our range and he doesn't, so I think we fold out plenty of better hands like 2p

I don't even think you have to shove tho, you can just do a 2x to 2.5x gives you great STP for river value or bluff, villain would have to make a tough decision either way

good thing you hit your hand tho
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