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3/5: AA faces three loose players 3/5: AA faces three loose players

12-24-2015 , 04:42 PM
V1(500, utg) MAWG, play loose, weak and on tilt by v3. go after v3
V2(1000,mp) Mid 40s Black male, loose.
V3(2800, hj) 30s Mexican guy, supper loose and aggressive, raise with any two cards, he just raised to 35 preflop with 35o, v1 calls flop 9c6d7h. V3 bets 40. V1 calls. Turn 3d, v3 bets 65. V1 raises to 165. V3 calls. River Jh. V1 bets 300. V3 calls. V1 has Ad2d.

Hero(1500, btn) tight player but also card dead.

V1 limps v2 limps v3 limps hero raises to 35(too small. They would call 50). All call.
Flop:9d2d3h
Check check check hero bets 75 call call v2 3 bets 275. Hero??

I'm sure v3 doesn't have set here. He raises with any pairs. He may have 92 93 or flush draw or maybe just one pair.
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12-24-2015 , 04:53 PM
I'd definitely bet bigger on the flop... pot is like $148 minus rake and you barely bet half the pot into 3 opponents. Bet at least $100.

Quite a large check-raise from V3 on a pretty dry flop. As described his range is super wide here, could have all sorts of air and is just trying to blast you off of an assumed overpair / big cards.

If you reraise he can't be *that* crazy to continue unless he is quite strong. I probably just flat the $275 and plan on calling down if V3 wants to keep barreling. If he checks the turn I might check behind and try to induce another barrel on the river.
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12-24-2015 , 10:00 PM
bigger 3! pre for sure. with 3 limps, the first limper will know that if he calls, the 2 others will as well, which will give him great pot odds.
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12-25-2015 , 04:01 AM
I don't mind going to the flop with these 3, of course if they will all call 50, then by all means, bet that.

I would flat the raise and call all runouts, or possibly donk the turn again, I find that this often induces a shove. Either way, I'm looking to get my stack in against any of these Vs.
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12-25-2015 , 04:37 PM
Like others said, larger raise pre and bigger bet otf. Once this crazy guy raises big, I strongly prefer raising (to about $600) over calling, so we don't entice the villains who have called OUR bet to call HIS bet behind us and further reduce our SPR and possible FE against flush draws/straight draws.

Furthermore, assuming our raise gets to him without any callers...our 4bet might cause him to spaz and shove.

Btw, do we have the A of diamonds? If so, I feel even better about getting it in.
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12-25-2015 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Suess
Btw, do we have the A of diamonds? If so, I feel even better about getting it in.
It's closer to a fold if we have the diamond ace....
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12-25-2015 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Suess
Like others said, larger raise pre and bigger bet otf. Once this crazy guy raises big, I strongly prefer raising (to about $600) over calling, so we don't entice the villains who have called OUR bet to call HIS bet behind us and further reduce our SPR and possible FE against flush draws/straight draws.

Furthermore, assuming our raise gets to him without any callers...our 4bet might cause him to spaz and shove.

Btw, do we have the A of diamonds? If so, I feel even better about getting it in.
Nope, AhAs
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12-25-2015 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by timmay28
It's closer to a fold if we have the diamond ace....
really? Why? What's the reason?
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12-25-2015 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrirtyThree
really? Why? What's the reason?
If he's not raising you with the nfd then its more likely he has a made hand. Now whether his likely made hand is a set/weird 2p or just TP requires further info. Is he apt to raise 9x to this sizing after clear strength and callers?
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12-25-2015 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by timmay28
If he's not raising you with the nfd then its more likely he has a made hand. Now whether his likely made hand is a set/weird 2p or just TP requires further info
So, what kind info we can put him on set vs tp? History bet pattern?
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12-25-2015 , 05:46 PM
Ya with these stacks you should probably have at least some clue by now the likelihood he takes this line with hands your beating

Shrug
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12-25-2015 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by timmay28
If he's not raising you with the nfd then its more likely he has a made hand.
OP says he is "super loose and aggressive" and will "raise with any two cards." That classification, in conjunction with the hand example OP gave, shows that he could be raising with much less than the nfd.
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12-25-2015 , 06:44 PM
You are not playing any one of these players individually, you are playing them collectively.

Equity in this spot for AA cannot possibly be that good, and any runout that doesn't include A is pretty much awful.

Unless there is some sort of indication that Hero can isolate villains down to heads-up, and there is no evidence of that, I cannot possibly think Hero will have positive EV in this spot.

Fold and move on.
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12-25-2015 , 09:40 PM
Min 45$ pre , but happy to call down vs this type of player. Call and call all run outs that are not a diamond imo. If there was no fd I feel like we could find a fold easier assuming he is likely to have 2 pair or set 22/33. If he checks turn We should bet to induce a shove. I think that type of player would always bet a set to protect vs FD on turn and if he checks its more likely to be a draw or total air.

Last edited by patjps; 12-25-2015 at 09:50 PM.
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12-25-2015 , 10:11 PM
****ty spot for sure. I think I would make it $500. Hoping to get the other callers to fold their equity. Willing to stack off vs v3.

Everyone should play pretty straight forward after you raise and define your hand.
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12-25-2015 , 10:53 PM
Hate this spot.

I think folding is ok here. Unless im absolutely positive that i can get HU and have good equity. Then i'd raise it. But i dont know how often thats gonna happen.

Last edited by sewktbk; 12-25-2015 at 10:59 PM.
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12-26-2015 , 12:16 AM
Hero folds and V1 goes all in. V2 folds. V3 calls

Result
Spoiler:

V1 has 94o and V3 has 96o. 6 plays.
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12-26-2015 , 01:01 AM
You guys know it's hard to make greater than 1 pair. What are you ranging these people on, apparently they play any 2 based on the results but having aces vs these 3 is like a dream scenario. In hand its tough to have 2 pair on this board, meaning your up against a set if your behind. I feel people always want to wait for better spots against the fish but sometimes you got to make the most of your situation, stack the fish before they get stacked or rack up and leave. I'm not saying get crazy but i think this is one of the best boards for aces

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