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01-09-2020 , 07:33 PM
3/5/10 mandatory straddle

$1300 effective stack, Villain (LAG Fish) covers us

Hj calls the straddle Villain makes it $35 to go on the button

We wake up in the small blind with 10d10h and make it $105 to go HJ fold Button calls pot ($238)

Flop comes out 2d 6c 7d, I bet $110 he calls, pot ($458)

Turn is Jd I bet $190 and he ships all in? Line x and what are we doing on the river?
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01-09-2020 , 07:41 PM
I go $175 pre.

AP vs fish, we should go a lot larger on the flop. I like going $200.

AP, I'm x-c turn; ap, fold
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01-09-2020 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
I go $175 pre.

AP vs fish, we should go a lot larger on the flop. I like going $200.

AP, I'm x-c turn; ap, fold
Yeah I butchered pre should of went around $150ish
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01-09-2020 , 07:45 PM
I'm making the nit fold on the turn as played after the over card and diamonds come in.

Shouldn't our 3 bet be larger pre since we have straddle money, the limper, and we are OOP? 4x seems better to me. Flop seems standard. Turn I probably go $275 / fold.
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01-09-2020 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by c0rnBr34d
I'm making the nit fold on the turn as played after the over card and diamonds come in.

Shouldn't our 3 bet be larger pre since we have straddle money, the limper, and we are OOP? 4x seems better to me. Flop seems standard. Turn I probably go $275 / fold.
Yeah pre was **** I honestly forgot what I was thinking this hand happened a little while ago
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01-09-2020 , 08:07 PM
bet more pre flop...I'd go 4x...140 ish

I'd also bet more on the flop, maybe 75% pot

Turn is a bad card for you. I'd check call turn, check fold river if he bets again.

as played, you have to fold
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01-09-2020 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iseeflopsinclass
3/5/10 mandatory straddle



$1300 effective stack, Villain (LAG Fish) covers us



Hj calls the straddle Villain makes it $35 to go on the button



We wake up in the small blind with 10d10h and make it $105 to go HJ fold Button calls pot ($238)



Flop comes out 2d 6c 7d, I bet $110 he calls, pot ($458)



Turn is Jd I bet $190 and he ships all in? Line x and what are we doing on the river?

Way too small pre. $150 IMO. Probably more vs a LAGfish to exploit that he’s likely not folding to a 3 bet.

No idea why you’re betting that turn to not call it off. Which seems thin. But I’d have gone into bluffcatch mode. Not a lot of terrible rivers relative to the board and our holding. Seems unlikely we stack a worse value hand with bet bet bet.


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01-09-2020 , 08:24 PM
Grunch.

I like $175 pre.

AP, I like the flop sizing. I don't want to bet too big OTF, even against this player type, since I'd like to give myself the opportunity to fold to turn aggression, assuming I were to bet again.

Turn is a c/c imo (possibly even a c/f) depending on the sizing. Sure, we're well ahead of his range but for our bet to be profitable, we have to consider his continuation range.

Especially since we don't particularly mind a river diamond.

I'm probably checking my entire range on this turn actually, planning to c/r all my flushes. This is a much better turn for him and he'll let us know what he has with his actions. I'd also like to lose the minimum, in this particular hand, if we're drawing dead.
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01-09-2020 , 08:44 PM
Seems like everyone wants to c/c, c/f turn vs aggro LAG? IME he's betting turn at high frequency when we appear to check and give up. He's also not slowing down OTR if V description is what I'm thinking of. I think we leave our range stronger and uncapped if we bet/fold turn. Isn't it much harder for him to bluff vs our double barrel with stronger turn sizing? We play all of our flushes, sets and overpairs as bet / bet right? Having a diamond blocker is also nice.
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01-09-2020 , 08:52 PM
Is a fish, even a LAGGY one, really going to bomb turn with his suited combos of 45 and 89? If he isn't, a c/eval is very reasonable.

Sure, we can get value from worse, including draws, with a meaty bet OTT but if he's folding his 7s which he probably doesn't even have many of, for example, it's a disaster.

And we can't be sure what he's doing with his marginal hands. We only know we're losing way more when he actually has it. Also, we're forced to fold to a raise where as we can continue vs a reasonable sized bet if we check.
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01-09-2020 , 09:42 PM
Bigger pf. 150-175.

Bigger on the flop.

Check the turn.

As played I really can't find a call. He can have all the sets and all the overpairs and a bunch of flushes.
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01-09-2020 , 09:57 PM
More pre or flat call. Flop bet is ridiculously small and accomplished nothing.

AP: we now have a bluff catcher and have to assess our MDR against a lag-fish otb in this turn.

Honestly I don’t understand the thread. If we’ve decided to get agro with TT preflop oop, we have to do it with a clear plan of how we’re going to play postflop. We flop about as well as we could hope, yet we’re in this gross spot unsure of how to proceed. We could’ve set mined getting 30-1. Instead we bloat the pot OOP with no plan.

AP I sigh and fold. We all make this type of mistake from the blinds so I’m glad OP shared this hand. When we take this line we have to have a very clear idea of what we’re trying to accomplish.
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01-09-2020 , 10:01 PM
raise more pre.
as played bet like $180-$200 on the flop.
as played fold.
Td blocker is kind of irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Spanishmoon
Honestly I don’t understand the thread. If we’ve decided to get agro with TT preflop oop
which is totally fine against a lagfish at these stakes.
it's not even really much of a decision this is a no brainer 3bet.
it's fine to play a hand aggressively and then dump it on a bad runout.
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